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[Grandeza]

I think I'm one of the few who is ok with the roster choices and size. I'm not a big fan of metroid so no Ridley is no loss for me. I like Wolf more than Krystal. WW Link is in. I am hoping it's real..

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

Things are lookiing good! the top credible leakers all, mostly, have WW Link in their lists for a PC! I think it's almost time to start throwing our green shirts and sheaths in the air in a fit of joy.

[Davy Jones]

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Luigi is just another Italian plumber, Falco and Wolf are just more Space Animals, Zamus is just another Samus while Sheik is just another Zelda, and the Jiggernaut is just another puffball.


I do not agree.
Indeed, Falco and wolf will be clones, but Zamus and Samus are one and the same character, they can transform one in each other. Jigglypuff is not just a Puff ball, we wasnt even in Kirby series, he was a POKEMON! Shiek is not choseable in choose character.

[motsalogeL]

Thats The Whole Point!!

[A Link to the Snitch]

To make Zamus, they take up a spot on the roster. It takes time to make Zamus.

WW Link is a unique being, and will have a unique moveset.

[E-Jolteon]

With tiny legs, big arms, GIANT HEAD!

Yeah, he's awesome.

Cel Link or gtfo, please.

[Kadet4]

People keep saying he's a clone. He isn't! He can have a completely unique moveset!

[DeuceBlade]

Saying WW link is a clone of TP Link is like saying TP Link is a clone of OoT Link

well... I think I made a point.

[Fawriel]

I do not agree.
Indeed, Falco and wolf will be clones, but Zamus and Samus are one and the same character, they can transform one in each other. Jigglypuff is not just a Puff ball, we wasnt even in Kirby series, he was a POKEMON! Shiek is not choseable in choose character.
Point being?
Saying WW link is a clone of TP Link is like saying TP Link is a clone of OoT Link

well... I think I made a point.
Point being?

[motsalogeL]

Either Douchblade is getting confused or his is trying to make a point.

[ylink_underestimted]

I do not agree.
Indeed, Falco and wolf will be clones, but Zamus and Samus are one and the same character, they can transform one in each other. Jigglypuff is not just a Puff ball, we wasnt even in Kirby series, he was a POKEMON! Shiek is not choseable in choose character.

Yes, point being? TP Link and CS (let's say WW for now) Link are different characters. Same role, sure, but different characters. WW Link can be totally different.

...haha DoucheBlade...
I think he meant "cased closed" or "it's done" or w/e:p

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

Yes, point being? TP Link and CS (let's say WW for now) Link are different characters. Same role, sure, but different characters. WW Link can be totally different.

...haha DoucheBlade...
I think he meant "cased closed" or "it's done" or w/e:p

Now that the boards work....more or less....we can get back to discussion...or rather just agreeing with each other......how awesome WW Link actually is.

He's awesome. Case Closed.

WW Link 4 Brawl.

[motsalogeL]

Case re-opend... he is uber awesome.

[ylink_underestimted]

OH! So SWF closed...I thought it was just my computer o_O

Speaking of closed cases, I started to read the manga haha (just thought that was ironic)

Anywayz: While the case is open, I do not agree with Lego (or motsa...w/e). CS Link is not uber awesome, he's a ultra super special awesome transformation sequence...of himself! Anyone who might have an idea of where I got that from, tell me if it's all right (hint: Yu Gi Oh).

-Lwarb 4 Knil SC

[0ranger]

I'll probably end up maining him. I love his character design. Here's hoping we get a Wind Waker stage, too.

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

OH! So SWF closed...I thought it was just my computer o_O

Speaking of closed cases, I started to read the manga haha (just thought that was ironic)

Anywayz: While the case is open, I do not agree with Lego (or motsa...w/e). CS Link is not uber awesome, he's a ultra super special awesome transformation sequence...of himself! Anyone who might have an idea of where I got that from, tell me if it's all right (hint: Yu Gi Oh).

-Lwarb 4 Knil SC

"Check his pulse, Yugi!"

[motsalogeL]

Ok... but wait have we decided on a good final smash? A few of my ideas are...

1. Child of courage: Link gets the Triforce of courage and (If he already has the master sword it glows, if he doesn't then he takes it out of a pedestal) becomes 3 times as powerful and twice as face for a limited period of time.

2. Bombardment: Link calls on the aid of Tetra and her crew, the pirate ship arrives (From somewhere...) and starts bombarding the level.

3. Wind waker: Link plays his wind waker and based on which direction he decided a wind comes and blows the other players away (Imagine the Kirby Dreamland tree except 2- 3 times more powerful, so you can barely move in the other direction) so Link can then use this time to smash his opponents off, and they likely wont come back.

4. Dragon roost attack: Similar to Pit's final smash, many (Arghh! Forgot the name of the bird tribe) bird people come onto the stage and start attacking and picking up other players, (When they are picked up they are held in the air for another bird to attack), the birds do a little bit of knockback but 15% damage in each attack but near the end of the FS Valoo comes and starts biting at th stage and breathing fire (Bite does 30% damage and a lot of knock back, fire is around 4 times as powerful and Bowsers).


Those are a few ideas... thoughts?

[Fawriel]

"Check his pulse, Yugi!"
He's dead, Jim.

Ok... but wait have we decided on a good final smash? A few of my ideas are...

1. Child of courage: Link gets the Triforce of courage and (If he already has the master sword it glows, if he doesn't then he takes it out of a pedestal) becomes 3 times as powerful and twice as face for a limited period of time.

2. Bombardment: Link calls on the aid of Tetra and her crew, the pirate ship arrives (From somewhere...) and starts bombarding the level.

3. Wind waker: Link plays his wind waker and based on which direction he decided a wind comes and blows the other players away (Imagine the Kirby Dreamland tree except 2- 3 times more powerful, so you can barely move in the other direction) so Link can then use this time to smash his opponents off, and they likely wont come back.

4. Dragon roost attack: Similar to Pit's final smash, many (Arghh! Forgot the name of the bird tribe) bird people come onto the stage and start attacking and picking up other players, (When they are picked up they are held in the air for another bird to attack), the birds do a little bit of knockback but 15% damage in each attack but near the end of the FS Valoo comes and starts biting at th stage and breathing fire (Bite does 30% damage and a lot of knock back, fire is around 4 times as powerful and Bowsers).


Those are a few ideas... thoughts?

The first one is a cute idea, but in practice, it's not really the most original.
Calling the pirates... wouldn't really work in all locations, plus it's always cooler to do the work yourself instead of calling for help.
Wind Waker always works. Just wind might be a little unspectacular, though...
And, I dunno, the bird people ( can't remember their name, either o_o ) aren't really all that iconic. It would probably look pretty cool, though.


My idea would be to use the Wind Waker to cause a constant whirlwind to revolve around Link. This whirlwind will buffet any enemy who comes within its large range, causing constant damage and making it next to impossible to defend against his attacks. Plus, it allows for him to use unlimited midair jumps up to the top of the stage, allowing him to perfectly edgeguard and juggle his helpless victim. Bam!

[motsalogeL]

The wind is so strong that if your trying to dash in the opposite direction it will look like your moon walking.

[ylink_underestimted]

Hahaha
Yugi wait! AAH! You almost hit me with a harpoon! Well, I didn't want you to leave...You could have said, "Hey, Yugi, please don't leave." Hey Yugi- Well it's too late now, since you almost hit me with a harpoon!

Here are my ideas for the Final Smash...
Original Idea (Powered Wind Requiem): CS Link takes out the Wind Waker and plays Wind Requiem. A wind blows across the screen (but not the whole screen so as to not be over-powered). The wind will have a look like it did in Wind Waker (where white strips fly across the screen) and hits anyone in the way (maybe about 35% damage). As an aftermath, a small tornado will take shape and move around like in SSB64 (15% damage).
Idea I Just Brainstormed (CS Links Barrage): This'll sound like Marvel vs Capcom. WW/PH Link takes out the Phantom Hourglass and stops all characters (basically time stopped). Then the 4 Swords Links go the center of the stage and do a Spin Attack, while WW Link plays Wind Requiem. After the Spin Attack, a small flies by, followed by MC Link, who's Minish Cap will bite anyone in the way. All this adds up to 40% damage, but any character lucky enough to have stopped high above the stage will only get about 15% from the small wind that passes by. This all happens in about 7 seconds.

Both of them sound pretty overpowered, but they were just brainstormed anyway...

[ylink_underestimted]

Hahaha
Yugi wait! AAH! You almost hit me with a harpoon! Well, I didn't want you to leave...You could have said, "Hey, Yugi, please don't leave." Hey Yugi- Well it's too late now, since you almost hit me with a harpoon!

Here are my ideas for the Final Smash...
Original Idea (Powered Wind Requiem): CS Link takes out the Wind Waker and plays Wind Requiem. A wind blows across the screen (but not the whole screen so as to not be over-powered). The wind will have a look like it did in Wind Waker (where white strips fly across the screen) and hits anyone in the way (maybe about 35% damage). As an aftermath, a small tornado will take shape and move around like in SSB64 (15% damage).
Idea I Just Brainstormed (CS Links Barrage): This'll sound like Marvel vs Capcom. WW/PH Link takes out the Phantom Hourglass and stops all characters (basically time stopped). Then the 4 Swords Links go the center of the stage and do a Spin Attack, while WW Link plays Wind Requiem. After the Spin Attack, a small flies by, followed by MC Link, who's Minish Cap will bite anyone in the way. All this adds up to 40% damage, but any character lucky enough to have stopped high above the stage will only get about 15% from the small wind that passes by. This all happens in about 7 seconds.

Both of them sound pretty overpowered, but they were just brainstormed anyway...

[Mike87]

Great write up, I like the Link vs Ganon pic.

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

I would think the Ballad of Gales would be a nice Final Smash for Young Link. Summon Cyclos and wreck everyone...

Also, I don't think he should have the cel-shading. I mean, he can have the same appearence and clothing and everything with improved graphics. The same model was in other handheld games, so it's not like he's always been cel-shaded.

[A Link to the Snitch]

1. The best FS would be Hurricane Slash - Recovery move (a little up recovery, very fast horizontal recovery) would be best - after all, it's his ultimate move.

2. Cel-shading is one of his prime features (and besides, they cel-shaded his Casual Wear trophy).

[espio87]

hey, guys, there's a piece of information Sakurai gives in the fifth part of the Iwata asks interview that says and I quote:
Sakurai: "Right. The development for Smash Bros. Melee began soon after the GameCube was released and we had to design each character from scratch. This time, however, we were able to borrow characters from various development teams, which was a big help. Take The Wind Waker and Twilight Princess from the Zelda series for example. We were able to design the Smash Bros. characters by adapting them just as they were modeled for the original titles. "
although the topic they're talking about is trophies this info could be interpreted as if Sakurai made WW Link as a PC, maybe I'm just seculating but I think that's what he means.
and here is my idea for a Final Smash
Four Swords: link splits into 4 and the other parts (that are controlled by AI) will attack the opponents, once 20 seconds pass the clones dissapear. If you are playing against 3 other players each link will target one player. If you are playing against 2, 2 will pick one player and the other the player that's left. And if your are a playing against only one player all 3 of them will target him/her/it. the clones have the same stats as WW Link (so they aren't easy to KO, they don't have less attack power, etc). so, in short this would be a final smash that's more powerful when there are less enemies.

[Cosine]

Ok... but wait have we decided on a good final smash? A few of my ideas are...

1. Child of courage: Link gets the Triforce of courage and (If he already has the master sword it glows, if he doesn't then he takes it out of a pedestal) becomes 3 times as powerful and twice as face for a limited period of time.

2. Bombardment: Link calls on the aid of Tetra and her crew, the pirate ship arrives (From somewhere...) and starts bombarding the level.

3. Wind waker: Link plays his wind waker and based on which direction he decided a wind comes and blows the other players away (Imagine the Kirby Dreamland tree except 2- 3 times more powerful, so you can barely move in the other direction) so Link can then use this time to smash his opponents off, and they likely wont come back.

4. Dragon roost attack: Similar to Pit's final smash, many (Arghh! Forgot the name of the bird tribe) bird people come onto the stage and start attacking and picking up other players, (When they are picked up they are held in the air for another bird to attack), the birds do a little bit of knockback but 15% damage in each attack but near the end of the FS Valoo comes and starts biting at th stage and breathing fire (Bite does 30% damage and a lot of knock back, fire is around 4 times as powerful and Bowsers).


Those are a few ideas... thoughts?


Even though it isn't from Wind Waker, I think he could use the four sword to become four links and go crazy, maby they could use the out of control spin dash from Four Swords Adventures

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

"No! I've been beaten!--In America."

I would like the King of Red Lions (boat form) to come down and engulf the stage in waves and such. The higher percent you are, the stronger the current feels to you, and the easier the waves can wash you away.

[No-Really-I-Suck]

Hmmmm

Was just at joystiq.com. They posted some vids of the trophies and stickers in smash.

This one had me thinking:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30012.html

Cel Shaded Tingle?

I know it's not much, and this is total conspiracy theory, but perhaps showing Wind Waker tingle will hint at Wind Waker Link???

Only time will tell.

[JawaJedi]

Since the Wind Waker style replaced the old young Link in the Zelda series, why not in Brawl too? Go WW Link!

[motsalogeL]

Cel shaded Tingle was shown months ago...

[Stryks]

Yeah Im sure it was already mentioned, but a four swords final smash would be just too good, and IMO would fit...

WW link FTW

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

2. Cel-shading is one of his prime features (and besides, they cel-shaded his Casual Wear trophy).
Yes but every single character we've seen so far has had a new, highly-detailed look. I don't think Young Link would go without such a graphical update, and that can't really be done without un-cel-shading him. And like I said, it's only a prime feature in Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass. His very same model appears in handhelds.

So now, his entrance: The warp cauldrons from Wind Waker that let you move through a dungeon really quickly. One appears and Young Link comes flying out.

[Johnknight1]

True Ike went from cel-shaded to normal, but Zelda characters are special. Link is basically TP Link with a bit more "universal Link" flair, and same with Zelda, and soon, Ganondorf. With Wind Waker Link, he might not be cel-shaded, but he'd be at least cartoony looking like Pikachu and Kirby. >_<

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

True Ike went from cel-shaded to normal, but Zelda characters are special. Link is basically TP Link with a bit more "universal Link" flair, and same with Zelda, and soon, Ganondorf. With Wind Waker Link, he might not be cel-shaded, but he'd be at least cartoony looking like Pikachu and Kirby. >_<
That's fine by me, but I still want to see the seams in his cap and texture to the rest of his clothes, etc. He can be done like Lucas.

[AuraLancer]

Just waiting for confirmation...

We all know he's in.

[Johnknight1]

That's fine by me, but I still want to see the seams in his cap and texture to the rest of his clothes, etc. He can be done like Lucas.

We haven't even seen Ness yet. Ness looks diffrent, but other then 3 moves (in which Lucas has less range with PK Thunder, his PK Fire has more range but is weaker, and his PK Barrier is faster, but blocks only one side), they are each original characters. It's just 4 moves they share in common-their nAir (a lot of characters share the same nAir), down B (totally diffrent), up B (one relies on tether recovery, the other relies soley on psi), and their forward B (one's has minimal range but lots of damage, the other has lots of range, but not too much damage).

They are basically bipolar oppisites, and Lucas is a semi-semi clone AT WORST! He makes Luigi look like Dr. Mario. It's not out of laziness, it's the fact that they are similar a bit, but entirely diffrent that makes them unique. Wind Waker Link is only half as bad at worst, which isn't even that bad. ;)

[A Link to the Snitch]

What? To say that Link could not look updated is to say that cel-shading cannot improve.

[Fawriel]

Well, dear knights.

The skies are looking bleak, gray clouds blot out the sun, and only few remain who stand to fight strongly.

Our hero is one of those who prevailed.

While it may be hard for many of us, let us look back on the times when we were but a small collection of peasants, and gaze upon the truth we fought for.

Let's hope for the best.

Enough of the exaggerated speech. I'll let pictures do the talking.

http://www.wii-brasil.com/arquivo/0101749001201628972.jpg
http://www.wii-brasil.com/arquivo/0004215001201629308.jpg
http://www.wii-brasil.com/arquivo/0181465001201628972.jpg
http://www.wii-brasil.com/arquivo/0221194001201630138.jpg
http://www.wii-brasil.com/arquivo/0141884001201630138.jpg

[Bassoonist]

Even WW Link looks like a disappointment.

I saw a screenshot of him with a bow and arrow. I'm sorry, but even one move alike regular Link is unacceptable. I hope all of the others are completely different, but I don't see that as being likely at this point.

Congratulations, WW Link fans. At least somebody got what they wanted in this nightmare.

[motsalogeL]

I cant help but agree with Bass 100%, he doesn't even look the way we wanted him to : (