The REAL REASON Ike is so slow.

[BigTru]

Sakurai got RNG screwed >_>

But seriously, there's many different ways an FE character can turn out in the game, and I think Sakurai is illustrating that.

[Little Red Corvette]

lol - That would explain many, many things.

[Lunadis]

The way I see it, the Ike in Brawl is the Ike in Radiant Dawn, only wearing his Ranger outfit from three years ago. Ike as a Vanguard isn't exactly the speed demon he was in Path of Radiance. But he's really powerful. Though one thing that's neat is Ike is a heavy weight. I wonder if this has to do with the fact Ragnell gives a +5 Def bonus when equipped.

[Little Red Corvette]

Off-topic - Lunadis, were you ever a member of a certain Pokemon forum obsessed with pie and garbage and such in its early days?

On-topic - That makes sense also, but I would love an update where Sakurai shows the RNG affecting Fire Emblem characters, watching his Ike get like no speed points, Marth for some reason getting tons of resistance...

[True Fool]

lol at Marth growing res.

[bksands77]

lol sakurai got rng screwed

[Lunadis]

It's still depressing at how Ike moves slower than his character model moves in Fire Emblem, and he wasn't even THAT fast then.Off-topic - Lunadis, were you ever a member of a certain Pokemon forum obsessed with pie and garbage and such in its early days?Yeah. Though I was the only one there who didn't even like Pokémon. xP
I still check PKC a few times per week.

[The Frog]

The way I see it, the Ike in Brawl is the Ike in Radiant Dawn, only wearing his Ranger outfit from three years ago. Ike as a Vanguard isn't exactly the speed demon he was in Path of Radiance. But he's really powerful. Though one thing that's neat is Ike is a heavy weight. I wonder if this has to do with the fact Ragnell gives a +5 Def bonus when equipped.

Well considering Ragnell has a weight of 20, while Falchion and Sword of Seals have weights of 10 and 8 respectively, it makes sense that Ike should be heavier than Marth or Roy.

[royinator]

then ike would be too overpowered

[Meta_Sonic64]

He's slow b/c of the sword. Simple and end of story.

[True Fool]

He's slow b/c of the sword. Simple and end of story.

...It barely looks bigger than the Master Sword, in Brawl anyway, just like how Ike is slow, in Brawl anyway.

Link has a sword. He should be slow. Ice Climbers have mallets. Since they're made of wood, they should be fast. Bowser has a shell. He should take half damage from all attacks. Makes sense, huh?

[Cless]

Link has a sword, a shield, bombs, bow and arrows, boomerang, and now he has chainmail. Link should be faster than a guy who's wearing leather armor and has a sword.

[Roy-Kun]

Logic: SSB screws up good characters, and somehow upgrades bad characters.

^ Fact.

[Lootic]

of course link is faster than ike, he has a magic bag were he puts all his things, especially his ball and chain(a bit disappointed it dont will be in brawl)

[Superninjabreadman]

It's still depressing at how Ike moves slower than his character model moves in Fire Emblem, and he wasn't even THAT fast then.Yeah. Though I was the only one there who didn't even like Pokémon. xP
I still check PKC a few times per week.

It'd be like Having Cloud, Full Power and Full speed in Brawl. He'd be invincible.

They Balance the characters out. maybe not compared to other Characters. but compared to themselves. (if that makes any sense)

[True Fool]

It'd be like Having Cloud, Full Power and Full speed in Brawl. He'd be invincible.

They Balance the characters out. maybe not compared to other Characters. but compared to themselves. (if that makes any sense)

But why do they have to go to the full extremity with both? Why Ike? What makes them think that Ike is slower than Link, and stronger than Bowser? It's stupid, he doesn't look big, or strong, he doesn't move like he's slow (hidden start-up lag=dumbest thing I've ever seen), it even looks like they made his sword a little smaller than what it was in PoR.

[ryquil]

um.... sry, RNG?

[Cless]

Random Number Generator

In Fire Emblem, your stats increase randomly when you level. The game uses a rng to determine which stats increase when you level.

[ryquil]

Ahhhh, ok thanks

[Smash_Gigas]

But why do they have to go to the full extremity with both? Why Ike? What makes them think that Ike is slower than Link, and stronger than Bowser? It's stupid, he doesn't look big, or strong, he doesn't move like he's slow (hidden start-up lag=dumbest thing I've ever seen), it even looks like they made his sword a little smaller than what it was in PoR.

I've been saying the same thing. However, I've a thought.

Perhaps, they are trying to replicate Ike's fighting style in Brawl as he did in PoR. How did he fight? Being it was a turn-based game, he concentrated on landing a single hit. He sort of brings the turn-based taste to Brawl. Ike tries to land a single hit, rather comboing like all the other characters, if you know what I mean. Since he only concentrates on single hits, developers (possibly?) added a little bit of strength. He is a Beorc with a heavy sword, so I wouldn't expect him to walk any faster than Link.

This is just my theory.

[Cless]

That's why Ike regularly gets two hits per turn, and why the other FE smash characters combo much better.

[Deathcarter]

Well Ragnell weights 20 in PoR and I assume Ike would have his ranger strength in this game seeing he has his ranger outfit on. Apparently the sword weighed him down too much.

and lol at Sakurai getting RNG screwed:laugh:

[Chaosblade77]

I don't think it matters, but he should be sped up a little since he is slow to the point of uselessness in a 1 vs 1 match. Looks like bottom tier to me unless they at least remove the invisible start up lag.

[Nodonn]

The speed I can live with, the invisible lag just sucks.

[Storm Eagle]

What exactly is invisible lag?

[Cless]

As I understand it, when you try to attack with Ike, he doesn't do anything for a bit and then he goes into his attack animation. It's like he is unresponsive to the button press. I think it's a bug since it was a demo, but who knows.

[Marthikeroy]

Like when he does his fsmash, he brings his sword back first, then strikes, i guess.

[Ruggeth]

He's a powerhouse. So he's slow.

[Gimpyfish62]

wow, uhhh

bye.

*bowser fsmash*