View Full Version : Yep, It's official. Bowsers working with the SA
Camera_Guy
12-21-2007, 03:31 AM
Now we have visual confirmation that Bowser is working with the Subspace Army due to him useing that Trophy gun. I always liked him for being the top villian when he's doing something evil. Do you think he will betray the Minister to be on top? I hope so.
Nicktendo
12-21-2007, 03:43 AM
Betraying the minister would be interesting.. I dont think Bowser would intentionally want to work under someone.. he likes being the top king
but man does Bowser look ****** in the video
Yes, very true. Bowser loves being the top dog when it comes to evil plans. I think he might be doing his own s***...yeah he's using the trophy gun, but how do we know if he didn't steal that sh*t lol.
orintemple
12-21-2007, 03:46 AM
Betraying the minister would be interesting.. I dont think Bowser would intentionally want to work under someone.. he likes being the top king
but man does Bowser look ****** in the video
Cause Bowser is ******.
He will probably turn on the Army and join the good guys cause he seems to do that a lot. As long as it helps him he will do it. Look at Super Mario RPG AND Super Paper Mario. Bowser joins your team in both of those games. He's a nice guy XD
Gerudo Warrior
12-21-2007, 03:48 AM
looks like all the villains are in on it. MK bowser and wario. I suspect the next villain to be in on it too. (cmon wart) looks like bowser is working for them. that does not suit bower's persona. interesting indeed
Nicktendo
12-21-2007, 03:51 AM
Yeah. Metaknight is a good guy, or becomes a good guy. He was shown in the video with the ice climbers. I think his ship got jacked by the SSE. Hes never really a bad guy. Dedede is like Bowser and works in his benefit to so maybe its actually everyone vs the SSE. :laugh:
Gerudo Warrior
12-21-2007, 03:54 AM
yeah. he is an anti-hero. i never though of the fact that they jacked his ship. i suspect dedede for helping SA do that. lol
Nicktendo
12-21-2007, 04:10 AM
heh, Metaknight and dedede arent really bad guys.
"Even if he has antagonistic qualities, he seems to be a guardian of Dreamland much akin to Kirby. Indeed, he has even come to Kirby's aid in more than one occasion which brings to question his motives and beliefs. It could be thought that when Meta Knight fights Kirby he is not necessarily trying to stop him, but rather test Kirby's skill, determination, and courage. Perhaps it is because he wishes to ally only with one who is worthy? Perhaps it is to prepare Kirby for the challenges to come? At any rate, he is certainly not an "evil" character." - From T!mmys metaknight thread
lthough he is not necessarily evil, he causes many problems for the inhabitants of Dream Land through selfish mischief, such as stealing their food or building a castle on top of the Fountain Of Dreams, so that the denizens suffer from dreamless sleep. His more heinous actions are more often due to possession by more sinister entity of Dark Matter, along with the rest of the usual franchise enemies. Despite this, he and Kirby have teamed up on occasions with the purpose of taking down a greater common foe.
King dedede is just a mischieveous self proclaimed king of dream land... he only fights kirby because kirby wants to stop dededes actions like stealing food or building his castle on the fountain of dreams. I think hell help the good guys take down the sse because it cramps his style of ruling and not following anyone, and their a greater foe like he has helped take down before
Mario_and_Sonic_Guy
12-21-2007, 09:15 AM
At least we know where Rayquaza came from. Bowser released Rayquaza so that it would capture Fox and Diddy.
Inferno_blaze
12-21-2007, 10:17 AM
At least we know where Rayquaza came from. Bowser released Rayquaza so that it would capture Fox and Diddy.
I believe this is what we call and assumption. Looks to me like bowser just turns up after fighting with DK after fox has beaten rayquazza (perhaps it depends on how you play it, who knows).
Erow Devastates
12-21-2007, 11:24 AM
yea bowser looks likes he works 4 sa, i think bestrayin would b cool, i wonder if any other charcters would help him
Nicktendo
12-21-2007, 12:47 PM
I think that Bowser is bribed by the SSE, like more power or something. Hes not being braincontrolled because then they would just do that to all the good guys.
error_alt_delete
12-21-2007, 12:48 PM
bowser's laugh in that video is awsome. but I think he will definatly betray the SSE after being defeated, it seems to be the most likley case(also I would be pissed If I couldnt use bowser in the SSE, hes one of my favorite character!)
Grandeza
12-21-2007, 03:14 PM
I have a question and its probably just me being ignorant, but just because wario and bowser have trophy guns why do we think they are with subspace? It just means that they are antagonists but not for sure paired with the subspace army.
MarthTrinity
12-21-2007, 04:38 PM
I have a question and its probably just me being ignorant, but just because wario and bowser have trophy guns why do we think they are with subspace? It just means that they are antagonists but not for sure paired with the subspace army.
True...I guess most people just assume that because it's the SSA's technology that Bowser and Wario are working for the bad guys. Both characters in reality have reasons for why they'd be doing this...obviously Wario's would be because he's greedy and wants money. For all we know he could have stolen the arrow gun, it's not like it's something he wouldn't do...Bowser on the other hand probably wants more power and is simply using the SSA to get what he wants. He may not join the heroes but he may be more like an anti-hero, not really on either team...just there to mess with whoever gets in his way.
Bowser's laugh scared me, it's so **** cool. He tried to shoot at Donkey and Diddy and he failed... Sh*t...
ness4life
12-21-2007, 07:31 PM
Duuudddeee...............
I just saw the video, and Bowser is definetly THE Definition of Bada$$!
Ok, Bowser's working w/ SA. I think that assumption is safe.
I just hope that we get to play as him...
Camera_Guy
12-21-2007, 11:47 PM
To C3CC
Bowser shot at Fox and Diddy.
shadenexus18
12-22-2007, 01:18 AM
Bowser is now officially a big time villain. He went from capturing damsels to freaking ruiling the galaxy. Did you see how large of a piece he was carrying? Oh yeah, and stabbing the Minister in the back would be ventage Bowser! Yeah baby!
Cereal Rabbit
12-22-2007, 01:28 AM
Bowser is obviously working on his own. He's probably chasing whoever for whatever reasons. Maybe trying to kidnap another Princess as mindgames to lure Mario into his corner.
For Dedede, maybe for some reasons that (MONEY?!?!?!?) he could be working for the Subspace Army. I'm pretty sure Dedede is a good guy with greedy intentions. In Kirby 64:CS he was possessed. Later he was a good guy, as a playable.
Metaknight isn't evil at all. His evilness is because he's pissed at Kirby rather than wanting him to perish. That or Dedede is paying him IOUs.....
(I watched the Kirby anime too much.........)
EDIT: Dubbed Kirby Anime by 4Kids... >.<
Panduh
12-22-2007, 04:26 AM
Hm.
Wario.
Bowser.
Rayquaza.
Petey Pirahna.
And where does Master Hand come in?
I've never seen Master Hand mentioned once on Smash Boards.
So did Bowser actually hit DK and diddy with the trophy gun?
Gedennnnn
12-22-2007, 04:44 AM
Bowser is ******.
(WOOOOT IM A JOURNEY MAN! Kay. I'm done.)
pyroroth
12-22-2007, 08:41 AM
zomg grats!
iron blade
12-22-2007, 09:07 AM
Bowser is a 'bad' character, but I bet he will be playable once he realizes there's nothing in it for him.
walkskyluker115
12-22-2007, 09:35 AM
Bowser steals things! It is very likely that Bowser would steal the trophy gun. That can't be the deciding factor for whether Bowser is good or bad. I do think that Bowser is bad though. He's the most fun that way.
Mario_and_Sonic_Guy
12-22-2007, 10:05 AM
Bowser steals things! It is very likely that Bowser would steal the trophy gun. That can't be the deciding factor for whether Bowser is good or bad. I do think that Bowser is bad though. He's the most fun that way.
I bet that even Bowser Jr. will be rather nasty by following his dad and capture the heroes.
Machspeed
12-22-2007, 10:21 AM
Wario had one of those guns too, so apparently I guess they are both baddies in Brawl.
... awesome.
Camera_Guy
12-22-2007, 01:07 PM
Maybe, Bowser hit DK with the trophy gun and after Diddy met with Fox Bowser caught up with them. If Dk gets captured and turns up unplayable for a portion of the game I'm going to be sad.
Hippochinfat
12-22-2007, 01:46 PM
I bet Bowser gets DK OR diddy and then DK or diddy teams up with fox and stuff.
Inferno_blaze
12-22-2007, 02:48 PM
Maybe trying to kidnap another Princess as mindgames to lure Mario into his corner.
Argh.
Bowser.
Camera_Guy
12-22-2007, 04:01 PM
To Hippochinfat
If you can choose who gets captured by Bowser (If that happens) It's hard to imagine DK being picked up by Rayquaza in the cutscene and has to be saved by fox. There is the posibility of another cutscene for DK if he does not get captured. (of cource this is all hypothetical)
brawlmaniac
12-22-2007, 08:59 PM
I hope Bowser won't later become a good guy. In the video, he makes a pretty sweet villain.
blubomber17
12-22-2007, 09:01 PM
Yeah, I'm sure Diddy and Fox were intimidated when they saw that gun-esque thing. I sure as hell would've.
iron blade
12-22-2007, 09:19 PM
For some reason Bowser and a gun don't seem to mix IMO. He is the kind of character that uses his fists/fire as a weapon.
TheLake
12-22-2007, 09:21 PM
Cant wait to see ganon with a gun...
LuiStrokes
12-23-2007, 01:04 AM
I bet that even Bowser Jr. will be rather nasty by following his dad and capture the heroes.
Naaaah, boser jr it's a f@g, he didn't even helped his father in galaxy
MarthTrinity
12-23-2007, 01:16 AM
Why is it though that game developers decide to give characters guns when the character doesn't really need them...? (Shadow the Hedgehog I'm looking at you...)
Nicktendo
12-23-2007, 02:03 AM
how else are they going to turn the other characters into trophys without a trophy making gun?
Bowser: "Diddy and Fox, would you guys please step into the tub of cement so I can make you into a trophy?"
Camera_Guy
12-23-2007, 02:37 AM
Their using the guns because it's easier. We know they turn back into trophies when they get beaten up badly, they use the gun because it saves them time and energy, and I can see Bowser using a trophy gun because he is a villain and villains don't fight fair.
smash_pilgrim
12-27-2007, 03:38 PM
Betraying the minister would be interesting.. I dont think Bowser would intentionally want to work under someone.. he likes being the top king
but man does Bowser look ****** in the video
yea he does like being on top :/ (ssbm bowser down throw)
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