Post E4all Tweak?!?! Hes Like Roy? and ask me any Q about ike :)

[Tingle_Stole_My_Pants]

When you try to quickly move to the left and right you trip and fall. Sometimes...I know it's bizarre but that's what happened

Maybe they didn't like Dash Dancing?



If Ike gets any better, I think I'll die... With that massive power, and actually being able to hit something, he'd be like Melee's Ganondorf with Roy's range O_o. 30 damage a pop and they just keep coming! Disjointed hitboxes, A longer sword than Marth's, godly KO power... Hoo boy, this guy's gonna be big.

You know, I think a lot of the hidden pre-lag in his attacks was meant to make it harder to know when he was going to strike, so it'd be harder to dodge. Are they keeping the hidden lag on his moves?


And one last thing: Does anyone else think there should be a neutral-gender pronoun in the English language? There's 'mortal', but that's not very easy to work into a sentence. There's also 'it', but nobody likes being called 'it'.



*edit*
Could you try google translator? It doesn't come out very clear all the time, but at least it makes enough sense to draw a few conclusions.

[Torchik]

The hidden lag makes it harder to hit, yet it's still easy to read for the opponent. His animations take a bit longer than the other characters' so people can jump or dodge before he gets fully finished. That's why he's gonna require some good timing.

[AlphaDragoon2002]

The hidden lag makes it harder to hit, yet it's still easy to read for the opponent. His animations take a bit longer than the other characters' so people can jump or dodge before he gets fully finished. That's why he's gonna require some good timing.

...Or not, if they did truly fix his attack speed. That would mean the invisi-lag is gone.

[chaos_Leader]

why are there complaints about Ike's recovery? In my experience, Fire Emblem characters have always had less than wonderful recoveries. Besides, with his new speed boost, Ike would unbalance the game with a really good recovery. every character will have their weaknesses and strengths, Ike's strength is his great wallop of an attack, his weakness, getting back on the stage.

I may seriously consider Ike as one of my top characters now

[Hippochinfat]

ALL THE MATCHES WERE FREE FOR ALLS. IKE STILL SUCKS. tea jam bread

[The Noob Legend]

What kind of recovery do you expect a swordsman to have?

*Ike mysteriously starts floating*

[Rakath]

why are there complaints about Ike's recovery? In my experience, Fire Emblem characters have always had less than wonderful recoveries. Besides, with his new speed boost, Ike would unbalance the game with a really good recovery. every character will have their weaknesses and strengths, Ike's strength is his great wallop of an attack, his weakness, getting back on the stage.

I may seriously consider Ike as one of my top characters now

Marth and Roy's recovery in Melee was based in combo (DED/DB 2/3 strike into Blazer/Dolphin). Since you can't do that combo with Ike. Ranger goes into freefall and Aether goes into deathdrop. All he needs is a bit more horizontal motion for Aether.

However neither of these end his usefulness, Ranger has enough motion to make it a fair recovery.

[AlphaDragoon2002]

ALL THE MATCHES WERE FREE FOR ALLS. IKE STILL SUCKS. tea jam bread

Until proven otherwise, you're wrong. Unless I missed the note that said FFAs changed a character's attack speed.

[iron blade]

ALL THE MATCHES WERE FREE FOR ALLS. IKE STILL SUCKS. tea jam bread

Go be stupid in the Sonic forum.

[supa*]

I sure hope they know what they're doing if this is true...

Last minute buffs could seriously screw up the balance in the game... D:

[/~Dogma~\]

well then if u dont appriciate then gtfo of my thread thats ur own negative opinon and we dont need it here go start and ike sucks thread and u can say it all u want have fun

[vato_break]

ike doesn't suck GTFO
ike is awsome

[Colaya]

I think all of you are just getting ahead of yourselves... Does anyone have the literal translation? Cuz if they were just comparing him to Roy, they may have just been referring to him about his slow speed, but strong attack and good range like-ness... I dunno... I just would like to read what was translated...

[vato_break]

his speed is that of roys
his attacks were very slightly nerfed

[Doomflame]

so now he has the speed of Roy and is really powerful Roy wasn't that slow kinda in between.

[AlphaDragoon2002]

I think all of you are just getting ahead of yourselves... Does anyone have the literal translation? Cuz if they were just comparing him to Roy, they may have just been referring to him about his slow speed, but strong attack and good range like-ness... I dunno... I just would like to read what was translated...

Except Roy wasn't slow. He wasn't super fast, but his hits came out faster than say, Link's.

So for the Japanese to directly compare Ike's attack speed to that of Roy's (as is the word from ShortFuse), it means that his speed is much greater than it was at E for All.

[Colaya]

Well, people always have the mindsets that Roy is slow because Marth is so much faster... But anyway, I HIGHLY doubt Ike has the attack speed of Roy and keep his incredible strength... If he does have Roy's attack speed, I'd consider him to be even more broken of a character than Fox was in Melee...

[AlphaDragoon2002]

Well, people always have the mindsets that Roy is slow because Marth is so much faster... But anyway, I HIGHLY doubt Ike has the attack speed of Roy and keep his incredible strength... If he does have Roy's attack speed, I'd consider him to be even more broken of a character than Fox was in Melee...

They nerfed his attack, albeit slightly, to make up for the speed buffs.

[Zink]

I think we can consider Ike to be beta tested via E for All, and now he's been tested again... I expect he'll stay this way now. Roy speed suits me fine, especially considering his huuuge attack.

[Rakath]

If Ike only gained back the speed from the invisilag, he'd probably not lose his power as I think the Invisilag is a glitch. If he got faster than that, an Atk nerf would be warranted.

[Hallowed Storm]

This thread makes me happy. :)
Yay for Ike being better than he was.

[fire_wulf]

With the speed buff and the slight strength nerf.... i believe Ike should stay the way he is as of this moment. We don't want him to become a broken character. I like thinking that i will be maining a character that is hard to use.. that way there won't be a ton of people using him.

I will gladly take his faults with his strengths. Sword users have always been my favs... so Ike will be my main.

[Hellbeing]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooot!!!!!!

<-----roy User!!!