Lucario's FS Needs Upgrading

[RoxasXIII]

Lucario's FS looks cool and all, but it seems kinda weak considering it doesn't do much damage and is easy to dodge due to its slow movement. I think that the damage should be boosted just a little, along with the speed of its movement, and that the other characters turn blue while everything else turns black, utilizing his abiltity of "aura vision", and adding the chance of a character going off the edge.

What do you think would be better for his FS? Or maybe even a different one?

[WolfCypher]

Yep, yep! I noticed that too, the more I saw it in action. It is slow, and except for when the attack is just about to finish, it has little knockback. I saw a video where a Pikachu avoided almost the entirity of the attack except for the very end of it. It took about 12% damage but got knocked far away (it wasn't at a high %).

[Link Lord]

Some people's final smashes are meant for 1 on 1s, like Link's, while others are made for more, such as Pit's, and some are even made for either, like Samus'. Lucario's is meant for more than 1 other person. And the laser itself isn't powerful, but the reason it lasts so long is to rack up damage. The laser also slowly lifts the characters up toward Lucario, making for easier KOs. Finally, the real devastating part is the end of the laser:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V-5CIZYzL9s
0:30 to 0:40 pwnage XD

[RoxasXIII]

I'm aware of its efficiency being dependent on the number of players, but even still, it is so easily avoided, even if you're a complete noob.

[WolfCypher]

I should be like the PK Starstorm...used best on smaller stages.

[Ruggeth]

Even if it needs upgrading, it wont get it.

[Layupfreak]

its fine the way it is in my opinion.

[PowerBomb]

its fine the way it is in my opinion.

I second that. Besides, can't you aim it in the one second before he launches it?
Besides, many final smashes can be dodged anyway.

[WolfCypher]

I wish it was a little better (cheaper), but it won't get to me. I have to admit when I saw it for the first time I was pretty impressed. It could be worse I suppose. At least it is unique, unlike the StarFox franchise Final Smashes.

[Micahc]

It doesn't need upgrading, YOU need up grading!

[VaneWalker]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=V-5CIZYzL9s
0:30 to 0:40 pwnage XD

The Final smash is actually affected by Lucario's strenght giving ability. I recall seeing in one of ShadowHero1991's video on youtube it did 42% damage on pit at some percentage i dont know whitch. But in the final smash compilation video or bdcool187' 60th video it did 31 percent damage.

But also that final smash was strong enough to kill pit at 36% so its not that bad

Point aside I dont think its a very good FS I'd give it a 6 out of 10 unfortunately

[VaneWalker]

Nevermindd

[TheZhuKeeper]

because final smash is going to be in tournaments right?

[RupeeClock]

His final smash is fine, really.
Dodging it can be difficult depending on what stage you're on, when you execute it, etc.
That thing is practically a OHKO when he has 200% damage anyway.

It can also be aimed before it's shot, you don't have to start the beam from the centre of the screen.

[Micahc]

because final smash is going to be in tournaments right?

Ew, that's gross.

[Wiwiweb]

The best way I've found to use this Final Smash is to use it when you're under the opponent. That way, when you go up, he is knocked a little, and has less time to hide.
It's hard to do that :embarrass

[Link Lord]

The Final smash is actually affected by Lucario's strenght giving ability. I recall seeing in one of ShadowHero1991's video on youtube it did 42% damage on pit at some percentage i dont know whitch. But in the final smash compilation video or bdcool187' 60th video it did 31 percent damage.

But also that final smash was strong enough to kill pit at 36% so its not that bad

Point aside I dont think its a very good FS I'd give it a 6 out of 10 unfortunately

This'll explain the percentage thing: http://youtube.com/watch?v=dTzQ91fKDTE

Twice as much damage once you're up to 200%! That plus hitting FS = uber pwnage!

[RoxasXIII]

I understand the damage multiplier, but you're not just going to let everyone beat the crap out of you just for that purpose are you? I would love it for Lucario's FS to be extremely beyond cheap! That's what they're for!

[Dream Chaser]

Forgive me if thi seems obvious, but does the strength of the final smash increase with the damage that lucario is on (like normal attacks?).

[RoxasXIII]

I'd like to think so, but I don't think so. Watch videos and compare. :)

[AKC12]

It could kill at a decently low percent, in the FS montage it killed Pit at 78%, so it's like a very strong smash at the end. Even if it doesn't hit, on a small stage you can trap the opponent on the edge since Lucario is very high up in the air unless if someone like Peach or Pit could just float to the left or right of the stage. Not as useful as most FSs, but can still produce desired results.