How to stop Toon Link's smash

[VGamerJoe]

My friend spams the forward smash and I usually counter with Marth, but he comes back and hits me because he's so fast. And, also, he jumps and uses his dair spike.

Any strategies?

[Crizthakidd]

counter both or shield/dodge the second strike. as for dair his is really fast so try to dodge and punish

[Colaya]

Shield? >.> Roll? <.< Sidestep?

But yeah... If you can see it coming, then just shield and, after the attack is over, press the a button to do a Shield Grab... Or if you Perfect Shield it, use your foward smash. There's very little lag when you perfect shield and attack... So yeah....

[VGamerJoe]

I basically counter all the time. But when in ffa, I can't dodge everybody.

[Cooper736]

counter both or shield/dodge the second strike.

Yes. If a Lv. 9 CPU was ever good for ANYTHING (certainly not practice), it's their shielding techniques. I'm not saying you need superhuman reflexes here, but pay attention to how long they keep it up. A fully charged shield can take both slashes, and allow you to punish with a shield-grab/smash attack if you can get it off quickly enough.

[TLMarth]

Don't counter everything, just shield then grab. Marth has a really good grab.
If you see the attack early, you could jump away.

[VGamerJoe]

Yeah, I have really been a fan of shielding or grabbing. But, I guess I'll have to learn won't I?

[KazuTheNut]

I know little about Marth, but here's what I think:

When he FSmashes, Side-step behind him and hit, then run, and repeat.

Ditto to the DAir, but I probably suggest either a shorthop airdodge or a Sheil d+ Down dodge, the strike, Toonie is REALLY vulnerable at that point.

[VGamerJoe]

Marth's my favorite. I think they made him a little better in brawl. Except they made his standard continous a lot slower.

But, I have yet to defeat toon link.

[abit_rusty]

I figured this out by accident...but with Olimar you can down+B (pikmin whistle) right after you get hit by the first part of TLink's fsmash, and the super armor will time the exact instant the 2nd hit of the fsmash hits...and well there you go fsmash negated lol.

Otherwise.....just don't get hit :P that simple.

[Fire52388]

I would run away screaming. Your death is eminent. Panic helps too. Seriously though I would definitely work on rolling and dodges in general. His forward smash is pretty easy to roll dodge if you're ready.

[VGamerJoe]

Yeah, that's what I'm going to work on. Thanks.