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Mellinox
03-22-2008, 01:19 AM
stuck between bair, fair, and uair, really hoping it's dair though, i use fair pretty often throughout fights. dair is alright, but it's only use is really to spike which i often avoid.

so, bair, uair, or fair for KOing?

when you post your opinion, please include, if you know it, the %damage it does and if it can sweetspot and where it happens

Fire52388
03-22-2008, 01:53 AM
I don't have the details for you but I've found fair the easiest way. Bair is a good move but it's not as well suited for killing because it has less knockback--it's really better used for combos. If the opponent is above I do sometimes use uair, you just have to be careful about priorities. I like to mix it up for killing moves when the opponents are above: I can go beside them and use fair, or sometimes it's safe to pull an up b which will kill high up in the air, and I can also just do uair. So anyway, out of your options I would say the fair is probably your best consistent killer.

Omega_Knight
03-22-2008, 02:04 AM
Fair is probably the best but it comes out a lot slower that Bair so learn how to use it at the right moment.

Supax
03-22-2008, 02:25 AM
His 2nd hit from his F-Smash is really good. D-air is the worst because it is only good for spiking, and if you miss then you end up killing yourself. B-air and F-air both work at high percents though.

zifn15
03-22-2008, 09:38 AM
His 2nd hit from his F-Smash is really good. D-Smash is the worst because it is only good for spiking, and if you miss then you end up killing yourself. B-air and F-air both work at high percents though.
You mean dair is the worst. btw dsmash is a good kill move at 150% or so. the best way to kill Imo would be to combo a fair near the edge or uair at 115 or higher

JakeTL
03-22-2008, 09:58 AM
From that list: Fair is best, Uair second, bair third, dair last...

Though I should mention Dair is a spike, so its the best if theyre off the edge, unless theyre killable with fair, so you dont risk suicide.

Sir_Malechai
03-22-2008, 07:01 PM
From that list: Fair is best, Uair second, bair third, dair last...

Though I should mention Dair is a spike, so its the best if theyre off the edge, unless theyre killable with fair, so you dont risk suicide.

The Dair is pretty tempting though off the edge, but timing is annoying (hoping you hit them before they insta-spawn on the edge and you suicide lol)

Cooper736
03-22-2008, 07:22 PM
The Dair is pretty tempting though off the edge, but timing is annoying (hoping you hit them before they insta-spawn on the edge and you suicide lol)

Agreed. This annoying little quirk makes me not Dair anymore. If you're going to try and kill off the edge, just chase with some Bairs or Fairs. Toon Link has one of the best air games, and unless your opponent is using someone else with awesome vertical recovery, they won't be able to fight back without missing their window of recovery. I've killed at 40% just by chasing, without having to risk a suicide.

Supax
03-22-2008, 08:49 PM
You mean dair is the worst. btw dsmash is a good kill move at 150% or so. the best way to kill Imo would be to combo a fair near the edge or uair at 115 or higher

Fixed my post.

MIRN
03-22-2008, 09:01 PM
I probably use FAir and FSmash the most to land the killing blow.

smashking14
03-22-2008, 09:46 PM
fair or fsmah definitly

Stimpy
03-22-2008, 09:59 PM
I have such a tough time killing the the fsmash. I guess I make it too predictable.

DeadlyFuryG3
03-22-2008, 10:44 PM
in the air i use his Fair, Uair and sometimes his Nair.
on the ground, i grapple hook stun into a up smash, works very well if you get the hang of it.
and if all else fails just forward smash them.