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D3FAULT
03-28-2008, 12:29 AM
Does this make me a bad person? I use it every time I get into the air. I just can't help it! :ohwell:

Cooper736
03-28-2008, 12:43 AM
Does this make me a bad person? I use it every time I get into the air. I just can't help it! :ohwell:

Indeed it does. Using TL's Dair at every possible opportunity undoubtably makes you a Bad Toon Link User (BTLU), whic gives our entire board a bad name. But never fear friend, as there are several steps you can take to stop being a BTLU.

The first step is admitting you have a problem. Congratulations! First step achieved.
Second: why do YOU think you have a problem with Dairing? Do you fear being in the air? Go back to your childhood. How did you feel about roller coasters? Being tossed in the air? Do you fear falling slowly?
Now, I'm going to need you to tell us all why you have a problem with Dairing. Tell everyone you know.
Finally, you've come to terms with your fear. You are ready to overcome it. Success. Overcome it you have.


I hope this four-step program has helped. No longer shall you be a BTLU.

D3FAULT
03-28-2008, 12:57 AM
Indeed it does. Using TL's Dair at every possible opportunity undoubtably makes you a Bad Toon Link User (BTLU), whic gives our entire board a bad name. But never fear friend, as there are several steps you can take to stop being a BTLU.

The first step is admitting you have a problem. Congratulations! First step achieved.
Second: why do YOU think you have a problem with Dairing? Do you fear being in the air? Go back to your childhood. How did you feel about roller coasters? Being tossed in the air? Do you fear falling slowly?
Now, I'm going to need you to tell us all why you have a problem with Dairing. Tell everyone you know.
Finally, you've come to terms with your fear. You are ready to overcome it. Success. Overcome it you have.


I hope this four-step program has helped. No longer shall you be a BTLU.

Thanks! This has really helped me with dealing with my BTLU issue.

On a serious note, is it really bad to Dair a lot? Other than the predictability factor, of course.

DjNawo
03-28-2008, 12:58 AM
Cooper...that was epic.

Phoenix~Lament
03-28-2008, 02:13 AM
Nice one cooper.

And eh, against really good Brawl'ers, you're just going to get punished. Every. Time. You. Dair.

It has a horrible recovery time (You have to wait like an hour for Toon Link to pull out his friggin sword) which is the main reason it fails. Also, its rarely useful. You said yourself - everytime you're in the air, you Dair. That makes you so predictable it's not even funny anymore. So yeah, don't Dair so much. The attack isn't that great.

megamanexev3
03-28-2008, 10:19 AM
....but if you're up against a total noob, dropping a bomb (which HITS them) and THEN dairing works. This works against pros if you don't drop from too high up though.

VVayfarer
03-28-2008, 10:32 AM
....but if you're up against a total noob, dropping a bomb (which HITS them) and THEN dairing works. This works against pros if you don't drop from too high up though.

It depends on the pro, if it works. The pro could easily just shield the whole attack.

NeptunerAV
03-28-2008, 01:11 PM
TAPE DOWN THAT C-STICK.

heh, worked for me....sorta.

Sarijy
03-28-2008, 08:35 PM
See good Brawlers notice that your just spamming your Dair, so they will adapt and hurt you
So Don't you DAIR use that move.... Sorry for the pun
Great post cooper btw
Just use your projectiles more and pull out bombs to drop down.
A way you get into that situation is playing against computers, who don't learn to dodge or punish you, so it rewards bad behavior, in short, play with other people more.

Edit** Forgot the word "Don't" and it said the exact opposite thing I intended

Super_Nostalgic
03-28-2008, 08:51 PM
Other than the extreme predictability and the punishment of the lag, it's not that great of an attack. It does some damage, yes, but after so long, it doesnt do much any more. Also, it doesn't really combo into anything. If it sends them up, you may be able to bounce off them a couple times with the same dair and then combo into some other aerial. but not many people are going to get hit by every hit. If you hit them down, then your still falling and they're up and ready to kill you.

Synth
03-28-2008, 09:44 PM
It depends on the pro, if it works. The pro could easily just shield the whole attack.

That's why it is a good idea to pull the bomb out, throw the boomerang and fire off an arrow or two. Then do a short hop just high enough into the air while they are potentially stunned from the arrows and/or boomerang barrage and just chuck the bomb down, keep 'em in place and let that Dair rip. Projectile frustration conquers all. I can't tell you how many REALLY GOOD brawlers I have gotten with this technique.

Cooper736
03-28-2008, 10:30 PM
A way you get into that situation is playing against computers, who learn to dodge or punish you, so it rewards bad behavior, in short, play with other people more.

Actually, this isn't true. Computers are horrible to use in an effort to break bad Dairing habits. Even Lv. 9 CPUs have the annoying habit of standing under you while you fall, then try and Usmash while you're practically on top of them. Any smart player will just roll away.

If you're at a loss on what to do, try setting your C-stick to specials. Then when you're in the air, you'll pull out a bomb instead of Dairing. Infinitely more useful for getting back on the ground.

Let's use BTLU all the time, whenever it fits. The all other character users will be jealous of how cool we are.

Steck
03-28-2008, 11:07 PM
The only time you should really do it is if your not like really high , even sort high (be right above) and he must be shielding expecting a nair or fair or bair. Strike the shield more than once and eventually you hit him and have a set up for other moves. Other than this there is not much of reason to do dair (I'm hypocritical though, I end up using it alot because for some reason it just feels good)

Oh and its good if you get knocked near to the top of the screen and its like a slightly heavier directional influence.

Sy3
03-29-2008, 02:11 PM
I have the same problem, if you can use projectiles downards and di hevily if you have the oppertunity where you're bearly abouve the opponants head chuck a bomb for stun the dair, it'll help, but im starting to use bomb -> nair.

TLMarth
03-29-2008, 07:58 PM
Try to DI away and bair while doing it, use some projectiles.

-mugen-
03-29-2008, 10:19 PM
if you dair EVERY time you have the chance, then that's just a bad habit. i'm not really sure who you could play that would fall for it every time, besides level 9's.

i'm also not sure if there should be any dair bashing in this thread, because links and toon links dair isn't a bad move, you just have to moderate how much you use it and when you use it. that is, you should never use it for huge distances, if you are 800 ft. in the air and your opponent is just sitting on the ground. you should probably use it if he's below you at a short distance, then it's possible to spike him if he's in the air too, or even KO if he's at a high percentage and on the ground.

again, i don't think the move is bad. it can double hit if pulled off correctley and then you can pull into links bair madness, and this racks up your opponent's percentage like crazy. just make it a surprise attack, and understand the situations (by battling humans...) where you know you can use toon links dair with little flaw and no resulting punishment. just be careful, and possibly watch some kizzu or mellowd videos to see their applications of the move.

Jaxss
03-31-2008, 12:11 PM
I am also addicted to TLinks dair but I'm starting not to use it as much:)

Will19
03-31-2008, 03:22 PM
No problem with dairing as long as you don't SD'ing. Like I did for like the first moth. xD
Oh, and ofcourse, never use dair on the stage. It's just pointless.

Kairace
03-31-2008, 03:32 PM
Dairing is addicting but it's horrible in fighting good people. It's to easily countered. The real only way to accomplish a accurate hit is by footstool jumping to Dair or stunning the opponent with a bomb and Dairing.

daytimeninja
03-31-2008, 03:36 PM
Dair isn't bad at all as long as you know when to use it; and don't become predicatable

tag yeah
04-01-2008, 09:04 PM
ok, first, wtf is D.A.R.E. I am assuming you mean D-air with obviously stands for Down air... if not, please explain to me what D.A.R.E. is. And so I am contributing to the thread, try to replace when you D-air with B-air and hopefully you will get two or three consecutive hits off.

Cooper736
04-01-2008, 09:08 PM
ok, first, wtf is D.A.R.E. I am assuming you mean D-air with obviously stands for Down air... if not, please explain to me what D.A.R.E. is. And so I am contributing to the thread, try to replace when you D-air with B-air and hopefully you will get two or three consecutive hits off.

APRIL FOOL TAG YEAH.

But for those of you who really need help with drug abuse problems, D.A.R.E. (http://www.dare.com/home/default.asp) is there to help.

shadow1pj
05-18-2009, 12:08 PM
dear god yes it is only do it when your 100 percent sure or they are really close cuz the force from impact will push them back best bet is throw a bomb down then dair and even that rarely works
btw cooper my school has dare to lmao

Sasuke the Sheik Main
05-18-2009, 12:18 PM
dear god yes it is only do it when your 100 percent sure or they are really close cuz the force from impact will push them back best bet is throw a bomb down then dair and even that rarely works
btw cooper my school has dare to lmao

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