View Full Version : anybody that uses b-stick?
prOAPC
04-21-2008, 12:37 PM
i'm a Lucas mainer that uses b-stick, i have 2 profiles, one with b-stick (for Lucas only) and the other one for every other character. Yesterday i tried to play with b-stick as Toon Link (my secondary) and i like it a lot:
- gain wavebouncing with his boomerang and arrows, not as long as Lucas' but still it works
- take a bomb out in mid air without fast falling accidentally
- easier to start that bair combo using the auto-RAR
- no more accidental dairs (it has happened sometimes, i wanted to fair with the c-stick, but i miss and i made a dair, now, if you miss, you take a bombo and can recover easily)
- uses his upB in the ground without jumping (but not charge the attack), for those that plays with tap jump.
i think the cons are the same for Lucas, harder to control DI for earials and chance of tripping on forward smashes (due to smashed analog stick) (quote from Tyr_03), but i can live with that
Cooper736
04-21-2008, 02:25 PM
I was once a B-sticker but no longer. I'll admit that instant bombs were useful, but I find it much better to have a Usmash at the ready for when I'm dashing. RARing is easy enough to learn, so it's not feasible to use the auto-RAR defense (trust me, I tried that). For wavebouncing, I haven't tried it personally, but from what I understand you don't get much distance, and if you need to cancel on the ground, just air dodge or tether cancel before you hit to cancel all landing lag.
i'm a Lucas mainer that uses b-stick, i have 2 profiles, one with b-stick (for Lucas only) and the other one for every other character. Yesterday i tried to play with b-stick as Toon Link (my secondary) and i like it a lot:
- gain wavebouncing with his boomerang and arrows, not as long as Lucas' but still it works
- take a bomb out in mid air without fast falling accidentally
- easier to start that bair combo using the auto-RAR
- no more accidental dairs (it has happened sometimes, i wanted to fair with the c-stick, but i miss and i made a dair, now, if you miss, you take a bombo and can recover easily)
- uses his upB in the ground without jumping (but not charge the attack), for those that plays with tap jump.
i think the cons are the same for Lucas, harder to control DI for earials and chance of tripping on forward smashes (due to smashed analog stick) (quote from Tyr_03), but i can live with that
It is very hard to wavebounce with b-stick and get a arrow out since the boomerang comes out almost always. Plus TL's boomerang isnt as advantageous as lucas's pk fire with the b-stick.
I almost never fast fall when i am taking out bombs.
it is very easy and simple to do a RAR with any char, and if you SH and use the c-stick to bair ( pressing the opposite direction you are facing on the c-stick) with TL it is the exact same way.
i never do a dair when going for a fair with the cstick. i have steady thumbs and i have played with TL since the launch and i am just so used to his play.
i dont think any one plays with the tap up.
TL isn't really a char to benefit from this. USing your c-stick for fast smashes is much, much more advantageous. I think the b-sticking is really only for lucas players, who are willing to give up that technique for quick smahes.
prOAPC
04-23-2008, 02:52 PM
so i'm the only one that uses b-stick and still own with toon link :P
nukethemall73
04-23-2008, 05:27 PM
it would seem so prOAPC :P
i just find that running upsmashes on the Cstick are too useful to sacrifice, and also makes TLs forward smash easier. also, personally i dont think ive ever fast fallen by mistake whilst pulling out a bomb and RAR is easy once you get learn it. i dont think ive ever messed up a Fair by doing a Dair, and i only ever use my Cstick for the Bair anyway. i dont think ive ever met someone that uses tap jump... so im not seeing any pros here, and quite a few cons... maybe you should try more with smashes on the Cstick and see if you like it more than Bstick?
Darkurai
04-24-2008, 08:24 AM
I tried B-sticking, but then I found that neither Marth nor Ike actually has any use.
So, I had no reason to use it. Since I'm too lazy to switch it now and then, I don't use it with Toon Link.
calprinicus
04-29-2008, 04:25 AM
b-stick is mainly for lucas. I tried it for a while as much as I liked the auto-rar I missed the smashes to much and found a flick to do a smash is better than flicking into b-airs. there are effective ways to do b-airs without auto-raring. plus raring isn't that hard w/o the b-stick.
Doctor T
05-01-2008, 09:01 PM
I use the B-Stick. And I main Diddy and Toon Link, who don't really seem to have much of a use for it. :p
The main reason I use the B-Stick is because I never used the C-Stick in Melee to do smashes/aerials anyway. I was fast enough with my fingers to do A attacks normally. :)
Though after a lot of time using the B-Stick configuration, I've found all kinds of uses for it besides the ones people usually talk about. its just really handy for a variety of different tactics, if you can play without the Smash-Stick.
prOAPC
05-02-2008, 02:05 AM
i used the c-stick in melee, only for down smash and dair, now i use b-stick, only with lucas and toon link (i also play with ness, samus, and mario, but with c-stick). With Toon Link and b-stick, i try always to have a bomb in the hand, for me is much faster to take out a bomb. I can do the run+up smash easily without the c-stick, and i use the b-stick to run+upB. I don't use toon link's smashes too much, only when the enemy is 100%+
Doctor T
05-02-2008, 11:27 AM
Yeah, smash-forward and smash-down are really his only kill moves. It is best to never use them until your opponent is at high damage.
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