Running grab vs dashing shield grab

[soresu]

Running grab being when you press z to grab while running, dashing shield grab being when you shield while running and then press A.

I was always under the impression that the dashing shield grab was faster (just like JC grabs were faster in melee). But now it seems like the running grab comes out faster, only it has more lag.

Any thoughts?

[Scarlet Jile]

A little trick I learned from being a Yoshi main was that pivot-grabbing works with any character, and is especially beneficial to grapplers.

Dash in one direction, press Z and mash the C-stick in the opposite direction. If timed right the grapple will come out behind TL, and if I'm correct, removes some of the beginning animations of the grapple.

If not, it's still useful because you're not only incorporating a little mind-game, but you're also moving OUT OF THE WAY of possible incoming attacks in the process of your grab.



No idea if this is a commonly established TL trick though, 'cause I don't frequent the TL forum anymore.