is toon link still high on the totem pole?

[~The Koopa King~]

or has he fallen to the ranks of Wario....A Decent Character but people don't really like or take seriously?

because when brawl first came out TL Was All The Rage he was like A Character anyone could pick up and play

but i guess as time went on

people found he wasn't as perfect as they had hoped

[Bomber7]

What's so bad about Toon Link. I like him. He's fun to be play as. I know I will never be a master as him(or any other character at that matter), but he is a fun character. Wario can be fun, once you get used to him, he can be useful, just like TL. I use TL alot, asside from PKT.

[Baron von Evil]

Toon Link is still awesome.

[MrOtter]

You have to play alot smarter with Toon Link than people think.

You should always have atleast one projectile active imo. I'm still loving the Toon Link.

[synchroblst]

Toon Link's moves in my opinion are the closest you can get to a Touhou screenshot from any character in Brawl, so he packs a punch on the projectile side. That alone is a little boost when fighting slow chars and/or those without range/anti-range. He's a decent speed character in my opinion, a little fast even. I find those points a little convincing for me to stick to TL.

Besides, popularity means nothing; it just drives down the competition to hit the top Toon Link player. xD

[sasukebowser]

Everyone is saying hes awesome.
This of course is expected on the TOON LINK boards.
But I'm going to be serious here.
To me, toon Link just fits to my needs in this game, i love em.
But aside from Dair, its hard to kill with him usually.
His grab leaves him exposed if he misses it, medium ranged fighting is a hassle, and just generally speaking some characters can gimp the crap out of him.
Toon Link is less popular because other people are doing better in tournies with other characters.
As soon as someone gets REALLY REALLY good with TL, more people will start picking him, thats just how things work.
(Btw I'm gonna be that guy >=D)

[toktomo]

..((((

this is how it is:

tlink > falco > snake > kirby

lol

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nvm...tlink is still good if you know how to space correctly and spam with projectiles (!!! yeah that's right lol!)

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other than that...master tlink...lol. -___=

[Roager]

Hard to tell. Wario's become a lot more popular recently. Toon seems a bit less loved by the community. He's still got fans, though, and a lot of them.

[Jellyfishn]

If you just look at the activity on our boards you will find it is relatively small to the others. I really dont think he is that popular. Many dont play him now because they are getting into tournaments. Like half the worlds population, they are now playing meta knight and snake. XD

[AbsoluteZero255]

lol totem pole.

I think toon link is quite high on the tier list.

But really, do you think wario is underrated?

[Ørion]

What Jellyfishn said lol. This is the Totem Pole:

Snake and MK
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Everyone else Besided Ganon
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Ganon (lol)

[Duckys]

Give it more time and Toon Link will get better results hopefully. :lick:

[BentoBox]

If you check the Match-up chart in the Tactical discussion section, TLink has favorable and neutral matchups against everyone but olimar and zelda o,o. I don't know if this is any true but it if is, I must admit that I'm thoroughly surprised tlink isn't getting any more exposure~

[JesiahTEG]

I'll take a minute and explain why Toon Link will probably never see top 3 in a huge tournament, since people seem to be convinced that he just has all of this hidden potential, when in reality he doesn't.

Toon Link is a lot better on paper than he is in an actual match. In the beginning, people were going crazy about how he can outcamp more than half the cast. This is false. Any other character with projectiles can go pretty much even in terms of "camping." He can force a few characters to approach, which comes in handy, but other than that expect to be fighting mid range. A good example is Snake. You can force Snake to approach, but you can't camp him. You spam arrows, he throws grenades, then you have to deal with the grenades. By that time, he's already next to you. Same goes with a ton of characters. Not to mention the fact that every character that can outcamp Toon Link auto wins the matchup, due to the coincidence that they also posses the ability to win up close. (Pit, R.O.B., Zelda, Sheik to an extent) It's stupid. His projectiles are used to harass people most of the time, rack up damage which does help, and save urself from being edgeguarded. When I am playing Snake, any Toon Link that tries to projectile camp me, I walk powershield and Ftilt the crap out of them. Granted, it's harder than it seems but you get my point.

Next, Toon Link lacks range. He does outrange some characters but it's not NEARLY enough to play a spacing game. Marth excels at his spacing game, and he has a HUGE advantage due to that. Snake can play a spacing game. DK can play a spacing game. Not Toon Link. Toon Link can at best, SOMEWHAT pressure ur opponent. That is, until they realize that you are trying to be Marth and they swat you away or get inside your deceptively small range. It sucks.

Making matters even worse for Toon Link is the fact that possibly his worst matchup is Metaknight...The most common tourney character. He also has a bit of trouble with Snake, another huge tourney character. Aside from the fact that he's overrated, he has the 2 worst matchups to be bad in, Snake and Metaknight. He's simply not as good as them, and they do well vs him.

Now, I'm telling you all these bad things about Toon Link, and surely you're asking yourselves "Isn't there any good things?" Yes, there are good things about Toon Link. As everyone knows, he can combo. He can combo, he's quick, he has good DI, and a good recovery. These things are all handy, but that's it. Handy. They're nothing that can ever make him a top tier character. These good things Toon Link has are all too situational! His comboing...His comboing really only gives him a huge advantage if his Bairs are near fully decayed, not allowing your opponent to airdodge out, and also allowing you to finish the combo with an Fsmash or Usmash. Otherwise you'll hit with 1 or 2 Bairs for some chip damage. His comboing is really nothing gamebreaking unless you can somehow make it so that your Bair is decayed. Extremely situational. Next, his manueverability. He's quick and has great DI. This doesn't really help that much vs characters like Metaknight, who is even quicker and can track your *** down, or Snake whose Ftilt covers the stage, so ur quickness doesn't even matter. Again, this advantage is situational...You need to find ways to abuse it. Counterpicks like Rainbow Cruise and Norfair are perfect for this.

In summary: Toon Link is average in everything, which is annoying but we have to deal with it. He can't camp like Pit or Rob, and he can't space like Marth or Snake. He's right in between. He does however, completely stop some characters under certain circumstances, due to his advantages. This makes him an amazing secondary character to have in your back pocket for counterpicks. Having trouble with Snake? Take him to Norfair, as you have every advantage possible on Norfair vs Snake. Think Melee Peach. She's a good character, can't keep up with the best characters though, and she's unstoppable on some stages like Mute City and Dreamland 64. That's all there is to it.

That's taken from another thread here.

[AbsoluteZero255]

What Jellyfishn said lol. This is the Totem Pole:

Snake and MK
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Everyone else Besides Sonic
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sonic (lol)

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