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BoTastic!
08-31-2008, 05:23 AM
Marth and snake isn't workng for me but im doing petty good with practice on my Toon Link. Any tips i can use against G&W besides out camping him?

ุrion
08-31-2008, 10:47 AM
Well, to add to the outcamping, use a shorthop double arrow (SHDA). This is doing a short hop and immediately pressing b, then pressing it again as you land which cancels some of the beginning animation of the arrow so two arrows fly very quickly making it much harder to avoid. This does take some practice though.

vbdood1337
08-31-2008, 02:29 PM
outcamp and avoid the turtle. watch for the d-smash. he's pretty light so you should be able to kill him pretty early if you save your kill moves

Dr.octogonapus
08-31-2008, 02:37 PM
Avoid his bair.
Don't rush in to punish a missed dair, you'll just get hammers to the face.
D-smash is pretty powerful, my friend uses G&W and his slightly decayed D smash kills me around 80% (when sweetspotted)
Hes an awkward character with awkward movements whos usually unpredictable.
If he can't get close to you he can't do much, I usually do best when just outside his bair range.

K 2
08-31-2008, 05:15 PM
The best thing is to outcamp GaW and force him to approach you. His bair is very annoying. It stops most of your projectiles, its multi-hit and does aroun 15%, and it eats through you shield. GaW is very light, so you should be able to kill him early, but watch out for his insanely powerful smashes. GaW's fair usmash, ftilt, and fsamsh all have considerable lag on them, allowing you to punish. BEWARE of those attacks however, since it hitbox lasts forever.

Bomber7
08-31-2008, 09:19 PM
I will give you a piece of advice that has helped me greatly among all opponents. Use Bombs.

VietGeek
08-31-2008, 09:55 PM
I will give you a piece of advice that has helped me greatly among all opponents. Use Bombs.

This man speaks the truth. I too <3 bombs.

By the way, this advice is actually helpful to you since bombs work well against GameWatch.

I think you can keep a bomb if your shield, and if he Bairs you, it'll explode on him while you stay safe in shield. From there you can follow up with Nair, jab combo, or something else with quick frames (Zair is not very frame quick btw).

BoTastic!
09-01-2008, 06:43 AM
Alright thank you all. G&W has become a huge problem for me in tournies. I desperately need Toon Link lol. Im doing pretty good with him btw.

Radiant Howl
09-02-2008, 11:37 PM
Yea watch out for the dreaded turtle, that thing eats through just about everything.

sasukebowser
09-03-2008, 12:35 AM
The turtle is so much rape man.
Can Bair counter that crap?
I really don't feel like checking. =/

cutter
09-03-2008, 01:50 AM
The best thing is to outcamp GaW and force him to approach you. His bair is very annoying. It stops most of your projectiles, its multi-hit and does aroun 15%, and it eats through you shield. GaW is very light, so you should be able to kill him early, but watch out for his insanely powerful smashes. GaW's fair usmash, ftilt, and fsamsh all have considerable lag on them, allowing you to punish. BEWARE of those attacks however, since it hitbox lasts forever.

Most G&W players almost never use Ftilt because Dtilt is a superior move. It has more range, faster startup time, and it has ZERO ending lag. His Fair does have lag if G&W lands the move before it ends; I'll give you that.

Do you realize G&W's Usmash and Fsmash have IASA frames? Usmash has slow startup time, but that's why I use Usmash to techchase after a Dthrow instead of just stupidly throwing it out.

The turtle is so much rape man.
Can Bair counter that crap?
I really don't feel like checking. =/

Nope.