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ImpactAR
09-24-2008, 01:00 PM
Create a topic, ask a question. That's what everyone else is doing.
sasukebowser
09-24-2008, 07:52 PM
Tilts are good after Zair too. *cough*theonlyuseforD-tilt*cough*
Zair => DqN is a combos. Do it right and it's inescapable even at little over 100%.
I should really start doing this. =/
VietGeek
09-24-2008, 07:56 PM
I should really start doing this. =/
Because me abusing Nair after Zair didn't tell you enough? ;_;
sasukebowser
09-24-2008, 07:58 PM
Because me abusing Nair after Zair didn't tell you enough? ;_;
No, I'm just too fond of tilts after Zair.
Everyone does their own thing pretty much.
But I'll try mixing it in. <_<
ImpactAR
09-24-2008, 10:28 PM
Alright I did some major formatting and added some info. There is more info and findings to come. Stay tuned.
Phoenix~Lament
09-25-2008, 12:25 AM
I swear that Santi abuses your "zair to dqn" already.
Anyways, useful thread. An fair AND an nair in one short hop? That's news to me.
iRjOn
09-25-2008, 12:32 AM
How can u fair and nair in one SH thats bastfamy I must try this tommorrow. Now I'm sleepy...
Asdioh
09-25-2008, 01:12 AM
Tilts are good after Zair too. *cough*theonlyuseforD-tilt*cough*
ah, dtilt. I remember a while back, I never used it, and I didn't realize how fast and spammable it was.
Then I realized how fast it spammable it was (thank you, wifi waiting room) and I spammed it in a game, and it was pretty cool.
But...I still don't use it. Ever.
You know, I really should spend more time in Training Mode...
Pretty good thread ^_^
bastfamyo_O
Phoenix~Lament
09-25-2008, 03:24 AM
Blasphemy.
sasukebowser
09-25-2008, 03:33 AM
Yay for D-tilt. =D
Blasphemy is the disrespectful use of the name of one or more gods.
o.O
I'm lost. <_<
iRjOn
09-25-2008, 06:13 AM
No no no... bastfamy not blastphemy, bastfamy is something I made up its just unbelieveable crap and some what use like blastphemy but more inovative cuz y?
Cuz I made it thats y...yea bastfamy
Back to topic I use nair alot I like it as a forward approach so i dont always RAR towards somone basically to mix it up.
Ginger_Warrior
09-25-2008, 08:44 AM
In any case, qFair -> Nair is possible. Well, kind of.
You do a Fair as soon as you leave the ground, and follow up with an Nair as you descend. You should get the first slash in before you hit the ground, although obviously because of this, you have landing lag. It does help with countering people who wish to punish a misplaced Fair though.
VietGeek
09-25-2008, 04:43 PM
Also, your fingers as you play Smash will get fast enough to not have to use custom controls for quick rising aerials. I can do SHDA with default controls and Battlechrist trick as well. I actually find using the shoulder buttons really weird to use for jumps because of how their analog in a game using digital controls.
It's all cool though. I still recommend setting a shoulder button to jump for JC throws if you want tap jump off.
ImpactAR
09-25-2008, 04:49 PM
Santi is actually the very first TL main I discussed this with. He didn't realize he wasn't Nair as fast as he could until I told him of my testings.
I'm sure there are other TL mains who figured you can Zair => Nair combos. I was even doing this, but the higher the percentage the harder it is to connect. I'm testing and concluding with you guys that DqN pushes TL speed and allows him to get an extra 10 % when you hit the Zair when you don't have a bomb in hand.
Now I have other ideas in my head that I haven't got the chance to test against real players yet. Be sure to check it out in the "Ideas With qAerials" and test them yourself along with any other ideas you may have and share your findings. I know I will.
ImpactAR
09-26-2008, 08:49 PM
Is anyone finding this useful? I feel like most of the people reading this thread think they're "that" fast already and this thread doesn't give them anything. If not I'm going to just let this topic die and stop wasting you guys or my time.
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