Teach me how to meteor smash using Mario Fair.

[PKNintendo]

I really hate this move. It's not a conventional meteor smash, and it's a hell to land. It has the longest animation, so if you wiff it, your screwed. It doesn't even send the opponent that far down.

It's actually the second weakest meteor (in front of DK's meteor Forward B)

Look, I don't want to sound like a jerk, but the meteor annoys me. Ness deadly stomp of pain is fast AND strong. (stronger than Ganon at 0%. Ganon beats Ness in power at well... 100%. :laugh:)

Teach me the ways of the attack!

[vato_break]

jump and fair.
capeglide>fair
fireball>fair

or you can just go for the ol' ODER COMBO!

[HeroMystic]

Fireball > F-air is rape.

Otherwise the only good way to land F-air is to mindgame your way to it, which is no easy task at all.

[Matador]

I really hate this move. It's not a conventional meteor smash, and it's a hell to land. It has the longest animation, so if you wiff it, your screwed. It doesn't even send the opponent that far down.

It's actually the second weakest meteor (in front of DK's meteor Forward B)

Look, I don't want to sound like a jerk, but the meteor annoys me. Ness deadly stomp of pain is fast AND strong. (stronger than Ganon at 0%. Ganon beats Ness in power at well... 100%. :laugh:)

Teach me the ways of the attack!lol, no one's making you use it. You're just missing out on the epic. The last few seconds of this vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9_dnN7cZiQ) generally show how it's used. I'm sure BO X7 and JO~P will also argue that it's far from...well...what you've described...even though what you've said is accurate.

Even if you don't hit on the hitboxes that cause the meteor, the knockback is more than that of Bair. Full hop Fair autocancels as well.


Otherwise the only good way to land F-air is to mindgame your way to it, which is no easy task at all.Basically this.

[Matt07]

:laugh: I love getting a spike with f-air, it's so good. But, usually on heavy characters, uair, to f-air is really good and nice. What I do sometimes (maybe works 25% of the time) is to throw them off the edge, and follow up with a f-air.

[SkylerOcon]

Fair takes so practice. You have to get used to its slow start-up before you can use it effectively, and even then, it's hard and opportunities to use it are scarce. I would recommend doing a few sets of Fair only kills on level 3 CPUs to get used to it first, and then go from there.

[Mario_ 101]

You can drop from the ledge and double jump into it which catches ppl off guard sometimes.

[ThatGuy]

It's an awful move and I suggest just aiming to kill someone instead. I meteored a Toon Link, but he recovered and toadstooled me to death. I usually only use the Fair by accident.

[A2ZOMG]

F-air is awesome on Battlefield because fullhopped F-air AUTOCANCELS ON PLATFORMS.

[HeroMystic]

It's an awful move and I suggest just aiming to kill someone instead. I meteored a Toon Link, but he recovered and toadstooled me to death. I usually only use the Fair by accident.

It's awful, but it's still usable. MUCH more usable than d-tilt I should say. You shouldn't use it regularly, but that once in a blue moon F-air can give you an easy meteor kill.

Don't spam it, but keep it in your moveset.

lol, no one's making you use it. You're just missing out on the epic.

F-air is more epic than the Falcon Punch.

[Envy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Efv0xO3Dw

Watch the ending of this vid.....shows the fireball > f-air. IMO the best ways to use the F-air is to either cape glide out and hit the opponent or the fireball > f-air...other then that...it's pretty pointless. In Melee it had it's uses on the field because of l-canceling(I'm sure you guys don't care for Melee)...but like i said...IMO those are the only two good ways of using it.

[Takeshi245]

F-air is awesome on Battlefield because fullhopped F-air AUTOCANCELS ON PLATFORMS.Epic. I definitely want to do that now. :)

[Famous]

It also auto-cancels near a ledge

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

It also auto-cancels near a ledge

or you could just say it...Ledge Cancels

[Gindler]

I doubt it's the 2nd weakest meteor. Yoshi's Dair is extremely weak (it just has push down potential), but i've spiked a pikachu at like 50-60 with mario's fair and a few other characters higher in percents so it's not all that bad. It does have a ridiculous wind up time but that only makes it sooo much better when you land it. out of a caped jump is my favorite way to set it up since people get discombobulated when they're caped for some reason.

[Matador]

For the people saying it's useless...it's pretty far from it. It's only useless if you noob around with it...like MK.

[Judge Judy]

It's hard to land but it's not weak, just weaker than Ness's, DK's, and Ganondorf's which are the most powerful meteors in the game. It's about the same power as most other meteors just a lot longer. It's not impossible to set it up and it is epic when it lands. Cape, fireball, FLUDD, and Uair are all good ways to setup a Fair. Just be glad that Mario has has a decent meteor now, in Melee it was suicide most of the time.

[Envy]

For the people saying it's useless...it's pretty far from it. It's only useless if you noob around with it...like MK.

lol dude..it's wack.:laugh:

[PKNintendo]

Dude, Fireball to Fair is rape! But landing isn't the only problem, the move itself is actually weak.

[HeroMystic]

Yes, it's quite weak, which is why you don't use it regularly and mindgame it. The surprise of it hitting leads to easy kills.

[Matador]

lol dude..it's wack.:laugh:Compared to the rest of the spikes and meteors in the game. Still a reliable meteor even though its speed and power are...less than adequate.

[PKNintendo]

It's hard to land but it's not weak, just weaker than Ness's, DK's, and Ganondorf's which are the most powerful meteors in the game. It's about the same power as most other meteors just a lot longer. It's not impossible to set it up and it is epic when it lands. Cape, fireball, FLUDD, and Uair are all good ways to setup a Fair. Just be glad that Mario has has a decent meteor now, in Melee it was suicide most of the time.

It's weaker than Zelda's, Yoshi's Ike's TL (first frame) Nana's fair, e.ct. It's the weakest. (a friend of mind had a test, and IIRC Mario was at the bottom)

In Melee, the animation was also shorter and it had a kickass sound effect.

[BoTastic!]

Another Fair thread from you? Geez i never really found it that hard to connect. Its a bad move but better than D tilt. I only use it when my oponent least expects it.

[mario brawler]

its all timing and prediction

[PKNintendo]

Another Fair thread from you? Geez i never really found it that hard to connect. Its a bad move but better than D tilt. I only use it when my oponent least expects it.

I only made one.:mad:

Fireball than Fair's you.

[Judge Judy]

It's weaker than Zelda's, Yoshi's Ike's TL (first frame) Nana's fair, e.ct. It's the weakest. (a friend of mind had a test, and IIRC Mario was at the bottom)

In Melee, the animation was also shorter and it had a kickass sound effect.

I don't doubt you but how did your friend test this? Anyway, Melee's was still suicide most of the time.

Here's the meteor power of characters: http://www.allisbrawl.com/forum/topic.aspx?id=7874&page=1

[PKNintendo]

I don't doubt you but how did your friend test this? Anyway, Melee's was still suicide most of the time.

Here's the meteor power of characters: http://www.allisbrawl.com/forum/topic.aspx?id=7874&page=1

Tetra's ship. We used %.

[J-Prep]

It's actually the second weakest meteor (in front of DK's meteor Forward B)


now if your as insane as i am, you'd wanna use your dub-jump and spike them again, just because you can....but thats just me =p

key to it is just prediciting your opponents movements and landing the spike when it counts, don't go trying to Fair people to death at 0%, thats how u earn the label "noob"

I'm sure BO X7 and JO~P will also argue that it's far from...well...what you've described...even though what you've said is accurate.


matador just loves throwing my name around haha

[Judge Judy]

It's among the weakest meteors but it still isn't the weakest or even second weakest. Still a meteor that doesn't cause you to suicide everytime you use it is a big improvement from Melee.

[Famous]

or you could just say it...Ledge Cancels


Lol, I'm just trying to make things difficult...