Dumb idea...?

[Charisma]

Is maining mario a dumb idea? just curious about what you guys thought about your character.

Obviously MK has a HUGE advantage, snake too, but still its mario!


Cant really do much in tournamants :\ i saw some good marios at Hobo but they dont get anywere because of the stupid MK's D:

[Blackbelt]

Mario is a good main.


Just be prepared to have a Dedede killing secondary.

[Judge Judy]

MK isn't impossible to beat with Mario, MK is just hard in general. You can do well in tournies with Mario just be prepared for Mario's 2 hardest match-ups, a.k.a. MK and DDD. Even high tier characters have trouble against MK, you shouldn't give up on maining Mario just because MK is hard match-up for Mario. As for DDD, think IC but with better grab range.

[Matador]

No. Don't main Mario unless you're prepared for anguish. There is no logical reason for any of us to main him. We're just psycho like that XD

[SkylerOcon]

Wait. MK is a hard matchup for Mario? Am I the only one who doesn't have trouble with MK at all?

[XKarasuX]

Mario Ftw he is fing awesome one of the best gimpers with his cape and Fludd lol just look at fears mario
btw mario combos quite well! ;) i second him

[XKarasuX]

Just type in life of a plumber on (you tube) for his Combo vids if u don't know who he is personally i think u should if u plan on maining mario good luck if u do main him!

[Judge Judy]

Wait. MK is a hard matchup for Mario? Am I the only one who doesn't have trouble with MK at all?

Probally, but you might just know how to fight him better most people do. You should share your knowledge lol.

[SkylerOcon]

Cape and FLUDD destroy Meta-Knight moreso than most people. Proper use of FIHL is rape.

[Judge Judy]

Cape and FLUDD destroy Meta-Knight moreso than most people. Proper use of FIHL is rape.

I knew the cape and fireballs worked on MK but I've never had much luck with the FLUDD, I'll have to try it some more. Also, are any of his aerials affected by FIHL?

[SkylerOcon]

I'm not sure about that, but using the FLUDD in air throws off his edgeguarding game pretty badly. If you push him below you, I normally fast fall Dair to get in some quick damage.

[Judge Judy]

I'm not sure about that, but using the FLUDD in air throws off his edgeguarding game pretty badly. If you push him below you, I normally fast fall Dair to get in some quick damage.

How about on stage? I myself stick to Dairs, fireballs, the cape, jabs, Ftilts, and the occasional Up B.

[HeroMystic]

How about on stage? I myself stick to Dairs, fireballs, the cape, jabs, Ftilts, and the occasional Up B.

FIHL rapes Metaknight's Glide Attack and Shuttle Loop. I don't think it has any other proper use beyond that.

[smasher?o.0]

Wait. MK is a hard matchup for Mario? Am I the only one who doesn't have trouble with MK at all?

i dont have trouble with mk eaither
and related to the subject
dont main mario
only friendlys
no tournys

[Judge Judy]

FIHL rapes Metaknight's Glide Attack and Shuttle Loop. I don't think it has any other proper use beyond that.

It works on his tornado and dash atk too.

[BlueJx23]

there were other Marios at HOBO? was it HOBO 11? darn, i thought i was the only one other than Stiltz (who only used Mario as a secondary in friendlies to my knowledge). oh well. for your information i did not get eliminated simply due to facing MKs. both Infinity and Lee Harris are good players who i can admit have more skill and experience than me. sure MK is a difficult matchup, but he's not brokenly impossible imo.

one of the main problems i have with MK is offstage. i can't edgeguard him, but his dair gimps the hell out of me (since it can even out-prioritize my upB). but if what everyone is saying about FLUDD messing with his edgeguarding game is true, i should have much less trouble with MK in general.

as for maining Mario, i've never had more fun maining a character... ever.:)

[Ray/Boshi]

Mario's a very enjoyable character to play as.

[viparagon]

Mario's a very enjoyable character to play as.

But then again, the ones replying to this are the peeps who main mario. Wolf is the least enjoyable character.

[Fatmanonice]

To main Mario, you basically have to accept that he'll never be above average and that, in most scenarios, you'll have to work harder than your opponent to win. Like other people have said, unless you're really dedicated, pick up someone to deal with King Dedede, Mr. Game and Watch, and Metaknight.

[PKNintendo]

Yarr, Mario is pretty fun.

Ahh... I remember 6 years ago when I pretended Mario's cape could make him fly in Melee. If I was younger, I would use that fludd in a similar fashion.

[vato_break]

I swear every post you make is dumber than the last -_-

[PKNintendo]

I swear every post you make is dumber than the last -_-

-_-

Mario is a fun character to play as in Brawl. Don't be deceived, he's a fun aerial fighter. And his B moves are all useful. Mario is A OK.

Happy? Vato?

[Mario_ 101]

XD. mario is a combo master/master gimper. mastering him takes a while but is well worth it imo. he just has a couple real hard matchups.

[Ray/Boshi]

Unfortunatly. Against Rob, D3, Snake, Pikachu, Lucario, Wario, Game an Watch, MetaKnight, Pit even, ect ect. The battle is not in your favor using Mario. Hope that you are more knowledgable in the rock, paper, scissors character matchup then he is against your Mario.

You'l have a long hard road ahead of you with Mario on quite a few matchups.. Main multiple characters if anything. Mario's a very decent main to have at your disposal. But using him a 100% all the time, every time main,. It could be done but **** flawless effort will be needed lol. Keep practicing your hard matchups. Good luck, take your time, and have fun with it.

[Judge Judy]

Unfortunatly. Against Rob, D3, Snake, Pikachu, Lucario, Wario, Game an Watch, MetaKnight, Pit even, ect ect. The battle is not in your favor using Mario. Hope that you are more knowledgable in the rock, paper, scissors character matchup then he is against your Mario.

You'l have a long hard road ahead of you with Mario on quite a few matchups.. Main multiple characters if anything. Mario's a very decent main to have at your disposal. But using him a 100% all the time, every time main,. It could be done but **** flawless effort will be needed lol. Keep practicing your hard matchups. Good luck, take your time, and have fun with it.

A lot of those match-ups that you listed are considered even lol. Anyway, the thing with Mario is that he has a little bit of everything to deal with anything, at least that's the ideal.

[HeroMystic]

To main Mario, you basically have to accept that he'll never be above average and that, in most scenarios, you'll have to work harder than your opponent to win.

^This.

Mario is a character with no easy exploits. You have to use all his abilities to win each match, and you have to understand all his techniques. Most of all however, you have to be smart and think during the match. This is mostly what drives players away from Mario because there is no "simple task" for Mario (although we Mario mains are so experienced we can call them simple tasks ;) ).

Mario is the character that shows the true skills of the player behind him.

[Ray/Boshi]

A lot of those match-ups that you listed are considered even lol. Anyway, the thing with Mario is that he has a little bit of everything to deal with anything, at least that's the ideal.

I don't really follow into all that matchup even stuff other then it being opinionated toward the smashboard actives. A good, dedicated Captain Falcon player could give a decent Mario main slight trouble. Point is, that's how it is. Brawl's a shallow game.

Mario's greatest asset is balance, everythings average. Which is also his greatest flaw. Other characters have at least something they excel in. A good Pit, Pikachu, Wario, Lucario even. Abusing his long roll will present a huge problem for Mario.

All you can do is play your best. And understand the character your opposition chose..

[The Pink Mist]

The way i look at this is mario is the perfect charecter to use as a secondary and heres why. I believe as a main he is a tad to limited and people that are used quite often are the ones that have a huge advantage over him. I feel he has the right stuff and air attacks that allow him to be a very good secondary, but as a main I dont feel he is up to par with many others.

[SkylerOcon]

Unfortunatly. Against Rob, D3, Snake, Pikachu, Lucario, Wario, Game an Watch, MetaKnight, Pit even, ect ect. The battle is not in your favor using Mario. Hope that you are more knowledgable in the rock, paper, scissors character matchup then he is against your Mario.

You'l have a long hard road ahead of you with Mario on quite a few matchups.. Main multiple characters if anything. Mario's a very decent main to have at your disposal. But using him a 100% all the time, every time main,. It could be done but **** flawless effort will be needed lol. Keep practicing your hard matchups. Good luck, take your time, and have fun with it.

Mario has the advantage on Rob, Pikachu, and Pit in my opinion. He's also even with Lucario.

Snake barely has an advantage, seeing as all of his moves can easily be caped and the fireball can take down his down-smash mine.

D3, Wario, and especially Game and Watch are disadvantaged match-ups, though.

[HeroMystic]

I don't find Wario hard.

[vato_break]

I don't find Wario hard.please share ....how do you kill him?

[jmanxiv]

Main a character cause you like him THen screw Tiers.

[HeroMystic]

please share ....how do you kill him?

F-Smash and U-Smash.

All you really gotta do is space yourself and be defensive.

[Matt07]

His Bite is so dumb, and his fsmash super armour frames drive me nuts.

I usually like to use more fireballs againt Wario's, I have trouble approaching him.

[HeroMystic]

Yeah, the bite is a pain, that's why it's best to stay defensive.

[PKNintendo]

F-Smash and U-Smash.

All you really gotta do is space yourself and be defensive.

Don't you mean Stutter Fsmash (angled Up)

? And NO UPSMASH. That move is quite weak.

If your lucky you can grab release Fsmash him (angled up_... Only if you grab him while he's feet are dangling. EX: Lylat cruise, Corneria e.c.t.

[HeroMystic]

Don't you mean Stutter Fsmash (angled Up)
Whichever works.

? And NO UPSMASH. That move is quite weak.
Not if it's fresh.

Do you spam Up-Smash or something? It has the potential to kill at 120%.

[PKNintendo]

Whichever works.


Not if it's fresh.

Do you spam Up-Smash or something? It has the potential to kill at 120%.

No. It kills Mario at FD at 130%. (with DI) spammed or not spammed, it's weak.

[Matt07]

True, but it's like hmm...if I can't hit with fsmash, I use my usmash, then dsmash for K.O's (I usually keep all my smash fresh.) If I still can't get a K.O then b-air.

[Mario_ 101]

wario is a lighter character. the up smash is therefore more effective vs. him.