urdailywater
10-20-2008, 08:41 AM
The SBR has been considering 'balancing' the game Brawl as of now through continuous patches by hacking the game through Ocarina. There was a lot of arguments about Melee 2.0 and whatnot through the last week but instead of Wavedashing and L-Cancelling, they suggest simply nerfs and buffs.
Go to the thread that started it:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=200495
and now to the current Debate about how it works:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=200533
Here's my opinion on the entire project:
One think that would be bad about this is that the patches will be the responsibility of the community itself, and which can cause lots of arguements.
Ever played World of Warcraft? "Nerf rogues, buff mages!". There will be a lot of that happening if this project succeeds. I'm prepared myself, but it'll still happen.
and someone who clarified. Incoming TL;DR:
I don't think the overall meta-game of Brawl is stagnant to the point of hacking (yet). In a sense hacking the game to create balance can damage the meta-game; and more importantly the Brawl community.
Say if one person mastered a character (post balancing hacks) and ended up reaching the epitome of said characters meta game.. Said person becomes so good and so recognized by the community, that he inspires many to pick up his main.. From here that character's metagame flourishes; and for a period of time progresses faster than the majority of the cast..
The problem lies within the rest of the community at this point. Now that we've discovered ways to modify Brawl, people begin to expect more buffs from their characters when they lose a certain matchup. They no longer feel the need to progress on their own instead of finding ways to get around their main's faults.. There have been many games that have tried perfect balance, and the idea sounds good on paper; but the human factor will make it a near impossible feat for the fighting game genre.
Hacking the game to achieve perfect balance sadly would damage the overall community in outcries for buffs and nerfs, rather than present an ideal perfect balance everyone could enjoy. Just my 2 cents
What are your opinions on the situation though? If you think Toon Link needs a "buff", then how what would you like to see? Are you against patching, thinking it would cause to much contraversy amongst the Smash World Forums?
If anything needs a nerf, what would you like to see? I'm not against nerfing entirely but to balance a game then it would be needed of course.
Go to the thread that started it:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=200495
and now to the current Debate about how it works:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=200533
Here's my opinion on the entire project:
One think that would be bad about this is that the patches will be the responsibility of the community itself, and which can cause lots of arguements.
Ever played World of Warcraft? "Nerf rogues, buff mages!". There will be a lot of that happening if this project succeeds. I'm prepared myself, but it'll still happen.
and someone who clarified. Incoming TL;DR:
I don't think the overall meta-game of Brawl is stagnant to the point of hacking (yet). In a sense hacking the game to create balance can damage the meta-game; and more importantly the Brawl community.
Say if one person mastered a character (post balancing hacks) and ended up reaching the epitome of said characters meta game.. Said person becomes so good and so recognized by the community, that he inspires many to pick up his main.. From here that character's metagame flourishes; and for a period of time progresses faster than the majority of the cast..
The problem lies within the rest of the community at this point. Now that we've discovered ways to modify Brawl, people begin to expect more buffs from their characters when they lose a certain matchup. They no longer feel the need to progress on their own instead of finding ways to get around their main's faults.. There have been many games that have tried perfect balance, and the idea sounds good on paper; but the human factor will make it a near impossible feat for the fighting game genre.
Hacking the game to achieve perfect balance sadly would damage the overall community in outcries for buffs and nerfs, rather than present an ideal perfect balance everyone could enjoy. Just my 2 cents
What are your opinions on the situation though? If you think Toon Link needs a "buff", then how what would you like to see? Are you against patching, thinking it would cause to much contraversy amongst the Smash World Forums?
If anything needs a nerf, what would you like to see? I'm not against nerfing entirely but to balance a game then it would be needed of course.