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Famous
11-12-2008, 08:55 AM
I don't know if this has been found out already or not...But while I was playing I noticed that I did a reverse Super Cape (or Reverse ACE)

If done on a stage with no floor such as Halberd you can glide halfway across the floor...You can also do a move right out of the dash/glide

You can also do this through platforms...

I'll post a video soon.

How it's done
While running near a ledge do a cape right before you run off the ledge(like your doing a regular Super Cape) But instead of holding the direction your going in, quickly press and hold the direction towards the stage.

If done correctly you should see a significant slide across the stage

(Note) This doesn't work on all stages
Still Testing

Working Stages (So Far)
Halberd
Frigid Orphen(Platforms)
Shine Gate
Norfair
Battllefield(platforms)
Smashville(platforms)
Hanenbow (works everywhere)
Pokemon Stadium (platforms)
Pokemon Stadium 2 (platforms)
Brinstar
Yoshi's(Platform)
Jungle Japes(platorm =/)

HeroMystic
11-12-2008, 09:28 AM
*blink* Not sure what you're explaining... you mean you just did cape glide on the stage?

Famous
11-12-2008, 09:35 AM
Lol, basically. It has many uses from what I was doing with it...

smasher?o.0
11-12-2008, 10:10 AM
idk what ur doing?
explain?

Famous
11-12-2008, 10:13 AM
It's a reverse Super Cape...Instead off gliding off stage you reverse the momentum of the SC towards the stage to do a Cape Dash(Yea, I'm calling it Cape Dash now)...

I'll post a video so don't worry...

HeroMystic
11-12-2008, 10:24 AM
=D

Mario's version of wavedash!?

Famous
11-12-2008, 10:26 AM
Yup, but it doesn't work on some stages...It works wonders on Frigid Orphen. =)

Matt07
11-12-2008, 12:45 PM
Woah, what O.o. Omg, this sounds so sweet! Wants to go home to test it right now, but I'm in school. Haha, I hope you figure it out soon!!

toasty
11-12-2008, 04:37 PM
so...you're essentially wavebouncing an already awesome cape technique so that you go onto the stage instead of off of it? nice. I'll be at Kadaj's tonight, so you should go and test it out so I can seeeez it!!! =D

Also...you and Boss have begun the brainwashing...making the Bros. look oh so sexy...I already started using Luigi some, Mario's next ^_^

viparagon
11-12-2008, 05:34 PM
By super cape, you mean cape glide, right?

MBlaze
11-12-2008, 05:59 PM
You put Shine Gate as a stage, wtf is that? :p Good find nonetheless, looking foward to the vid. ;)

Mario is the greatest brawler
11-12-2008, 06:43 PM
please post vid i need 2 see this

Matt07
11-12-2008, 07:03 PM
I did, it, the distance is awesome is sweet, I love you Famous for finding this (not in that way though.)

Ok to test it just go onto Battlefield, use the Cape glide off one of the platforms then when you use the Cape, hit the joystick the opposite way, and you will glide in that direction.

Ugh, I can't draw on here, it erases my spaces.

SkylerOcon
11-12-2008, 09:40 PM
Cape Dashing makes me feel sexy.

Kidlat
11-12-2008, 09:42 PM
OK I'm confused. Say I'm on Battlefield an I'm on top the left platform. I run off the platform. At the instance I must use Side B to do a regular cape glide, do I reverse the control stick direction to the left? Or do I reverse the stick another time?

SkylerOcon
11-12-2008, 09:48 PM
How to Cape Dash

Step One: Go to training mode and choose Battlefield
Step Two: On the platform that you start on, run immediately to one side
Step Three: Use the cape so that you would have ACE'd but IMMEDIATELY turn the control stick in the direction opposite of that you were just running in

Simple, no? It's pretty simple after practicing it a few times.

Matt07
11-12-2008, 09:50 PM
Haha, I still have a bit of trouble getting the timing right either I, do a little cape glide, or I reverse Fireball, or do the actual Cape Dash.

SkylerOcon
11-12-2008, 09:56 PM
I reverse fireball a lot when I was trying too.

For the record, this will have rape mindgames on Falco and Fox if they try to use there Side special across the platforms on Battlefield.

Matt07
11-12-2008, 09:57 PM
Ooh definately, now watch, most will recovery right below the platform on Battlefield, instead on the mid sections of the platforms :(. They always seem to do that now, they recovery from up high. They know the Cape too well :(.

SkylerOcon
11-12-2008, 10:04 PM
Obviously. That's why you either ACE across the platform or try to jump then intercept them with the cape before they use the recovery.

Kidlat
11-12-2008, 10:12 PM
Sorry, I'm just not getting this. So in the end, if I am running towards the right. Do I initially use the cape to the right AND THEN reverse direction, or from the get go, immediately Cape towards the left?

Bah, whatever. I will wait for the vid.

Matt07
11-12-2008, 10:20 PM
You use the Cape to the right, then hit the joystick left immediately. Remember dash off the edge of the platform.
SkylerOcon

Step One: Go to training mode and choose Battlefield
Step Two: On the platform that you start on, run immediately to one side
Step Three: Use the cape so that you would have ACE'd but IMMEDIATELY turn the control stick in the direction opposite of that you were just running in

As me and SkylerOcon said, if you did a reverse Fireball, or a regular Cape,dash your on the right track of doing it. Keep practicing, the timing is kind hard.

HeroMystic
11-12-2008, 10:24 PM
I hope we'll find a way to use this effectively on something other than platforms...

Matt07
11-12-2008, 10:27 PM
Haha, imagine Cape gliding on the ground, Mario would be insanely fast.

I will try fooling around with the Cape/FLUUD tomorrow. Usually I try tinkering with that kind of stuff, (I want a Auto-charged FLUUD :laugh:) But yea...testing get's hard especially when you aren't seeing no discoveries being made :(.

strike42
11-12-2008, 11:03 PM
on battlefield are i supposed to hit the ground and slide or am i supposed to slide on the platform, b/c i've been sliding on the platform.

J-Prep
11-13-2008, 01:01 AM
i think the whole point is u get to point a to point b while cape gliding... lol

but i've done this on accident with a regular cape glide attepmt. i didnt have to reverse it or anything. which makes no sense to me anyways, why would u have to reverse the joystick if u wann go foward, and ur running foward. shouldnt all the momentum just push u foward? only difference is its on stage, and we're gonna give it a whole different name? not to shoot down anyone's ideas, because i can see some mind game influence being used, but i think its simply put as a cape glide..onstage

vato_break
11-13-2008, 02:16 AM
Jo-p gliding
heck i already got a AT named after me....lol

Judge Judy
11-13-2008, 02:52 AM
i think the whole point is u get to point a to point b while cape gliding... lol

but i've done this on accident with a regular cape glide attepmt. i didnt have to reverse it or anything. which makes no sense to me anyways, why would u have to reverse the joystick if u wann go foward, and ur running foward. shouldnt all the momentum just push u foward? only difference is its on stage, and we're gonna give it a whole different name? not to shoot down anyone's ideas, because i can see some mind game influence being used, but i think its simply put as a cape glide..onstage

If this worked on FD it could be an interesting approach method to say the least. Sounds like a cool AT, but limited. If you could figure out how to do this more freely, then it would very useful. I still think this AT has some uses despite its limitations, mainly how fast it could allow Mario to approach and atk from near a platform or ledge.

Edit: lol, 666 post count

SkylerOcon
11-13-2008, 09:03 PM
I also think that this attack is useful for one other reason: It's a flying momentum reverser. If you don't want your opponent near you for some reason (ex: Charging the FLUDD), just CD when they're trying to approach and they'll be knocked away for a while.

OmegaXF
11-13-2008, 09:22 PM
Cape Dashing makes me feel sexy.
Feeling sexy means you accumulate Mario's mustache.
xD

Hagar
11-13-2008, 09:25 PM
are you talking about bsticking the cape towards the edge right after you've gone off? I've done this before on battlefield, but it didn't get me much distance at all, maybe like two body lengths(of mario standing up)

I'll post a vid of it soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkcFfip8I20

Judge Judy
11-14-2008, 12:48 AM
are you talking about bsticking the cape towards the edge right after you've gone off? I've done this before on battlefield, but it didn't get me much distance at all, maybe like two body lengths(of mario standing up)

I'll post a vid of it soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkcFfip8I20

That's not it but it's close; you need to buffer the cape direction input from forward to backwards. Basically you do what you would do to do a normal cape glide but immediately buffer the input to cape the other direction. This AT works nicely on pass-through platforms but it's a lot harder to do on solid platforms; you can do it on solid platforms like BF and FD too but it's a lot harder to do and I can't get the timing down.

boss8
11-14-2008, 08:01 AM
seems complicated =/

Famous
11-14-2008, 08:58 AM
It's just the timing you have to get use too...I've started to implement it in my gameplay. You'll see it when you play me next week Boss...


As for the vids...I'm trying to get one recorded between now and Sunday. I wish I had a recorder of my own =/.

Famous
11-14-2008, 11:04 AM
so...you're essentially wavebouncing an already awesome cape technique so that you go onto the stage instead of off of it? nice. I'll be at Kadaj's tonight, so you should go and test it out so I can seeeez it!!! =D

Also...you and Boss have begun the brainwashing...making the Bros. look oh so sexy...I already started using Luigi some, Mario's next ^_^

Lol, our tactics are working...We need to increase to dosage so more people will be affected

jk, didn't know you posted in this topic until today. Thanks for letting me record it on your laptop too...

capeman
11-14-2008, 02:03 PM
dude nice work man
thats so frickn cool
i did it once but it was lucky
i gotta pratice some moar
make that video and hurry

BoTastic!
11-14-2008, 04:49 PM
Nice gonna test this out. Yo Famous, i can make the video myself if you want. Im gonna make another mario guide video soon. Im gonna add the new FIHL as well.

Hagar
11-14-2008, 05:23 PM
here's the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeItZ3UPXPY

Hardgainer08
11-14-2008, 06:00 PM
I noticed this to too once. It only happened once and my eyes couldn't believe it. I tried to do it again but couldn't replicate it. I'm going to try your method.

I though I was crazy and just seeing things, now I know I'm not the only one.

Thanks for this.

Matador
11-14-2008, 06:13 PM
here's the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeItZ3UPXPYOh, THAT's what it is? That's actually pretty cool if you can get consistent with it.

So close, I'm sure capegliding with Mario's back turned is right around the corner. I'd love to Bair from Capeglide.