TL reveiw (1/5/08-1/12/08) Ground Spin attack

[chaos11011]

Ok this is how its gonna work we are gonna reveiw a move for a week and move on to another one the next week.




WEEK 1 Spin Attack
http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:U0wy1oAumCt4nM:http://zs.ffshrine.org/album/wind-waker/art/zww-link13.jpg

Discuss.

[iRjOn]

What are you talking about
o.O?

[chaos11011]

on the teir list we can do better than #17

[Shadow Moth]

Is this a pep rally or do you actually have an idea of how to do better?

If you want something to start with, I propose the discussion of the usefulness of the grounded spin attack.
Advantages (and disadvantages if necessary but they should be pretty obvious unless we really discover something useful), ideal circumstances for use, etc.

[iRjOn]

tiers are for qiers...
Why care it wont affect how we play Toon Link.

[chaos11011]

iRjOn lol

and Grouded spin attack advanteges:Can stop roll ubusers

[Shadow Moth]

@iRjOn: If you're talking about tiers then you're right. However, if you are talking about my discussion idea... well... you could be either right (we don't find anything of use/say anything helpful), or oh-so-wrong (we actually make progress with the grounded spin attack. Yeah... Right.).

@Chaos: if you accept my idea then it would be a good idea to change the title of the thread.

[chaos11011]

Im gonna put advantinges and disadvanteges of moves

[iRjOn]

I was talking about tiers
didn't even see your post there
till I came back
XD

On your topic
GSAtck
I am going to start using it on Lucario and roll abusers
But dont spam it its easily punishable if shielded.
And after awhile it become predictable.
From watching quivo
I am starting to see how effective it is.

[Shadow Moth]

I just tried it once and fell in love... again (first was zair>bomb combo)
Edit: Works well on anyone with a physical approach.

[chaos11011]

Im gonna edit the first post every day at 7:00 eastern time

and should i ask chip if this thread is allowed without being locked

[QUIVO]

Up b is something I've been using a lot and got Jerm to incorporate it into his gameplay (as well as many other things I do : D )

Rob's usually predictable with his spot dodge, so sometimes just running and doing an up b works. Even zair to up b works.

If you're comboing a character and start to lose them, they WILL aird dodge towards the ground. You predict or read where they're going and up b. Works well on snake.

I just went to a tournament this weekend, and was doing combos into a grounded up b. I've only encountered one person so far that SDI's out of it.

It's a good move.

[Bomber7]

I find the spin move good for following up after other moves. I cant go into specifics cuz I dont really remember but im pretty sure its good for all ground attacks. =D

Edit: I see you want a banner, talk to toonditty. He made mine =D

[chaos11011]

can anybody give me a pic of spin attack

sometimes on PS2 instead of a hyphen smash i use Grounded B^ is that good or bad

[Shadow Moth]

LOL at QUIVO's new avi.

Jab cancel to G^b (grounded up B) works like a charm a charm on anyone who hasn't been hit by it two or three times.

[chaos11011]

LOL at QUIVO's new avi.

Jab cancel to G^b (grounded up B) works like a charm a charm on anyone who hasn't been hit by it two or three times.

I do that alot on n00bs

[iRjOn]

Well look who I talked up
Quivo
XD

I'm going to start practiceing it
I stopped useing it because
T.Links isn't a kill move like Older Links.

[QUIVO]

lol irjon. Anyway, just look for when your opponent spot dodges/airdodges/rolls and then try using it then.

Seriously, just running up and doing it can work since some people think you're going to grab. If you miss, sometimes you can get lucky and the opponent will recklessly run into it

[Shadow Moth]

sometimes on PS2 instead of a hyphen smash i use Grounded B^ is that good or bad

PS2???
can anybody give me a pic of spin attack
http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:LhZqk7dOWZGrWM:http://www.serebii.net/ssbb/characters/toonlink/up.jpg
I hope this suffices

[iRjOn]

Hmm mind telling me some strings into up-b
other than those said?

[chaos11011]

pokemon stadium 2 on the Ice stage.

I just tested this on the heaver cast on lv.3 but next to a wall (like SMI)if you do dtilt,jab,jab,b^ it will do 23% not sure if usefull yet and thanks for the pic.

[Shadow Moth]

JC bomb>zair>up-b
Should work haven't tested it though...

[chaos11011]

um i cant copy and paste the pic. and whats a JC bomb

[QUIVO]

Anything that kinda pops them up and makes the opponent feel safe using an airdodge should work

I usually do dthrow, bair, zair, sometimes utilt, and dashes into them. I usually wait and see what they're going to do though. That's why up b is good, you can delay it.

I'm sure Usmash could work.

Also, using it out of shield is pretty good when you're in those little games where you take turns spot dodging.

[Shadow Moth]

JC= Jump Canceled
bomb means bomb throw.
If you don't know what jump canceling is or you don't know how to do it, check some of the stickies.

Edit: Quivo, do you have a vid of you doing that combo? I can never seem to land the bair.

[Bomber7]

[ IMG]http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp292/BearBomber/toonlinkspinattack.jpg[/IMG]

Theres a space between the first bracket and "I" just back space it and the image should pop up. =D

[chaos11011]

i got another combo light and meduim chars. fair them to a wall then Spin.

and heavier do the smae thing but add a smash to the end.

the light char was Jiggz the meduim was luigi
and the heavy was kong

[Jman115]

Anyone else ever spiked someone while edgeguarding? I did it once at the last tourney I hosted and I am not sure what happened. I can't seem to replicate it. I think they were holding onto the edge. Invinc frames went away and im not sure what happened next, maybe they jumped into me but they went rocketing down and I was left dumbfounded.

[chaos11011]

um wow uh cool could you save that when were discussing dair

[Bomber7]

chaos I got you a IMG link up above. just delete the space b/t the first braket [ and "I"

[chaos11011]

i cant copy and paste the picture when i went there

[Shadow Moth]

Copy paste it into the OP XP

[Bomber7]

yeah just highlight the link, copy it, then go to original post, edit options, paste it, then back space the space b/t the first braket and the letter I.

simple.. no?

http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp292/BearBomber/toonlinkspinattack.jpg

[ IMG]http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp292/BearBomber/toonlinkspinattack.jpg[/IMG]

just back space this space =D

[chaos11011]

k i got it i must be dead in the head

[Bomber7]

happens to the best of us. chec kthe OP to see if it worked.

[chaos11011]

it did work cheak my first post

[Bomber7]

k. its odd cuz from some odd reason it wont let me see the pic. 0.o maybe i'll see it later. lol

[Shadow Moth]

Here:
http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:U0wy1oAumCt4nM:http://zs.ffshrine.org/album/wind-waker/art/zww-link13.jpg

Copy paste that into the insert image option and see if it works.

Edit: You have to right click and select "copy link location" to copy the whole thing

[Bomber7]

well its not that, he says it works but it says my pic want linked correctly and I should check my photobucket account to check things... I deleted it and redownloaded it and i still cant see it. =/

Edit: you should also Center your wording through Go advanced when editing

[Fox Is Openly Deceptive]

Anyway, back to the grounded spin attack.
Is there much point in charging it?
Advantages, disadvantages.
Is there ever a good time to charge it?
How much does charging it affect damage and knockback?
Is it easier or harder to Di out of, if it is charged?

I'll be hearing from ya.