Spaced Out

[Reaperman64]

Im having trouble spacing ike especialy against projectile based charecters (lolimar)
any advice? my stratagy so far is to aproach diagonally with f-tilts but they always seem to miss and i cant camp him succesfully
btw me and my mate arnet pros but were not noobs if that makes sense....
thoughts?

[Colaya]

Err... o_O How do you approach with ftilts? xD By walking up and ftilting? If that's the case.... No wonder you're having trouble with projectiles... D:

Anyway, there is a bunch of stuff you can do about them... If they're slow enough, you can just run towards your opponent and powershield the projectile. Or if you're close enough, you may be able to counter it. Depending on the projectile, you also may be able to just catch it and throw it back (but isn't always advised, you're not gonna outcamp a Snake with his grenades xD).

A lot of the time, the best thing to do is just jump... You can jump over, or airdodge them. Jumping is much better for approaching even when projectiles aren't involved anyway... Nair, Fair, and Bair are all very useful when it comes to approaching with Ike.

[ExCeL 52]

Airdodge the pikmin?
Idk what you are doing with Ftilt o_O

[Colaya]

Airdodge the pikmin?

Oh. Didn't see him mentioning Olimar, all I saw was "projectile based characters"... xD Uh, I believe you can kill all of the ones that attach to you by using a nair. A neat little trick is to let them attach to you, and jump towards Olimar and use Counter, since it'll activate because of the Pikmin's damage. Uh... I think you can swat Pikmin away with fair too... You could also try to just do an instant dash attack in some cases... Lol, almost every other move is better to approach with than ftilt... Which I still don't see how it's possible to approach with...

Olimar is one of Ike's hardest matchups. Read the stickied matchup guide or something, I'm lazeh. D:

[Ussi]

let the pikmin latch on you then fsmash him when he ADs or spot dodges. It works all the time. (Coming from like the most Olimar experienced Ike)

[Palpi]

Yeah there is little you can do against Olimar.

[Reaperman64]

Oh god not Ftilt i wouldnt last a second, fair i ment Foward air....Not tilty

[akkon888]

Oh. Are you doing double jump F-Airs or short hop ones? If you want to double jump hit, go air dodge --> Nair/Dair. If you want to simply get to his location, do single jump --> air dodge. You can also over jump and possibly try for a more unpredictable B-Air. The problem is that you can't do anything with a F-Air if you cannot reach Olimar, and F-Air is far too predictable. Your best bet is to air dodge close to him.

[Reaperman64]

thanks it helped although he still hasnt cottoned on to fairs if i use them occasionally....
the bair overshot only use ful at the start of the match but hes having a real problem with it

[MyCurse4Life]

jump far away as possible