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Legendary Pikachu
01-15-2009, 08:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUGQMD1F1pE

Instructions are included with the video. See here (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=172216&page=20)posts 286 and 295 for more details and discussion on how the moves work.

Credits to Arc-thefallen-, Sasukexbowser, and Fox_is_openly_Desceptive. Edit: Props to toondiddy for including d-air into the chain.

Normally you can only do it by hitting someone because you fall into the ground before you can do another d-air or aerial, but Arc adds a few situations where you could abuse it more. Take it with a grain of
salt.... lol... :D

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PS. You can do d-air chains on stages with living targets (balloon on smashville, leaves on Canonbowel (team stage if not banned), shyguys on YI, kirby's rock) for sure cause i try that sometimes when the moment is right. Something to check for might be living "projectiles" like grenades, DDD's foward-b, Zamus's suit pieces, wario's wheel. Of course, bouncing off opponents can continue the d-airs.

Arc~
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Hope this helps guys. Edit: i'll be making a compilation video.... please submit and updates and/or song requests. I have college classes but i'll try to work on it every day. Weekends are a guarenteed (if no tournament).

Sincerely,
Legendary Pikachu, LDPK, Still a fledgeling smashboards'er

oOJaseOo
01-15-2009, 11:18 AM
cool thx guys

Marauder
01-15-2009, 04:04 PM
This was pretty good. Nice things can come from this.

prOAPC
01-15-2009, 04:44 PM
3:51 to 3:55 is sexy, but i don't know, it seems a little difficult to buffer aerials without throwing the bomb

TheJerm
01-15-2009, 05:18 PM
I tried to SHBD a while back and it didnt work for me =/ maybe I should try again. Any tricks to it?

TLMarth
01-15-2009, 06:01 PM
You mean Bomb pull and drop in one SH?

Well first get the timing for just dropping it.
Then practice getting the bomb out just as you jump.
Then SH, get the bomb, and then concentrate on the timing for dropping it.

Sasuke the Sheik Main
01-15-2009, 06:49 PM
Its like Bomb pull to-> quickdraw in a short hop.
Except you press "Z" instead of "B".
And you time it a little later.

SuSa
01-15-2009, 07:07 PM
Please don't tell me the Tl boards just found out about jump-canceled upsmashes is how to usmash with an item....


I think I should get more people into Stadium... this is a vital tactic for the record holding strategy for Sheik, in which you must grab the HR bat, and JC Usmash double-hit the sandbag, then chain it to death with small circles.....

I'll watch the video because I have no idea what you mean by the second one....

*wonders if the Link boards know about the JC stuff, can't remember if I shared it or it's been found*

VietGeek
01-15-2009, 07:44 PM
Seems like the video is using DAC to pick up the item w/ DA frames (it'll cancel the DA automatically) then turn it into Usmash.

Of course if we're going to just do JC that's A LOT easier than this KRAZY stuff since TL's DAC is kinda...

really slow in timing. So slow it's confusing for someone who only knows how to do it with the spacies. <_<

Alzi
01-15-2009, 08:54 PM
Looks intresting i can do all the things in the begining during the end i haven't tried yet might have to practice a little in training mode. This is good for mindgames since the opponent will be expecting a up tilt or another back air after you're done with the first but then he realises he gets hit by a Nair and gets confused then a bomb comes out of no where.

Legendary Pikachu
01-15-2009, 09:26 PM
Please don't tell me the Tl boards just found out about jump-canceled upsmashes is how to usmash with an item....

The video was more for visual explanation and instruction (thread name....?) than a discovery. Plus its one of the few Toon Link/Link explanation vids that'll help for the more visual learners.

Anyways, thanks for the update on the infomation tho.

If anyone pulls off any sick-nasty mindgame/combo?! with bomb in hand please put me on the people to tell list.

Thanks.

SuSa
01-15-2009, 09:35 PM
The video was more for visual explanation and instruction (thread name....?) than a discovery. Plus its one of the few Toon Link/Link explanation vids that'll help for the more visual learners.

Anyways, thanks for the update on the infomation tho.

If anyone pulls off any sick-nasty mindgame/combo?! with bomb in hand please put me on the people to tell list.

Thanks.

Usmash (at least for TL) with bomb is already an awesome mindgame. Also, my bad at not reading the last 2 words of the title.... :3 I feel bad now...

Hope you'll forgive me, and I actually have a bit I can add.

Reverse Jump Canceled Usmash with Bomb in hand is always just way too good. (didn't watch video yet, plan on it as soon as I'm done with dinner)


Also, I fully understand the visual learners thing, which is why I made a (almost 7 or 8? i forget, rofl) Snake Video guide, which..thanks to me... is already slightly out of date :3 may need to update a part of two eventually

Legendary Pikachu
01-15-2009, 09:48 PM
Usmash (at least for TL) with bomb is already an awesome mindgame. Also, my bad at not reading the last 2 words of the title.... :3 I feel bad now...

Hope you'll forgive me, and I actually have a bit I can add.

Reverse Jump Canceled Usmash with Bomb in hand is always just way too good. (didn't watch video yet, plan on it as soon as I'm done with dinner)


Also, I fully understand the visual learners thing, which is why I made a (almost 7 or 8? i forget, rofl) Snake Video guide, which..thanks to me... is already slightly out of date :3 may need to update a part of two eventually

No problem! :D

Thanks for the contribution. That'll help add some seconds from the hitbox finishing (damage racking/combo with decayed u-smash?). Oh... and TL back is towards oppoonent.... that's always good... hehe :P

I actually just saw your vids when looking around the AT threads a few moments ago.

Fox Is Openly Deceptive
01-16-2009, 09:40 PM
Nice video Legend. For the record you can chain (cancel) dair's together as well, so you can alternate between bair, Uair and Dair while holding a bomb. This can be usefull to know in certain situations. For example, someone said something about chaining dair into another arial then a bomb throw if you pogo on an opponent or something else, I'm can't remember but still, something to keep in mind. (I havn't tested this yet so I don't know for sure.)
I'm glad more people now know about my tech. Anyway congratulations on a cool video.
(I appreciate you giving me credit, thx man.)

iRjOn
01-16-2009, 10:54 PM
Nice job Fox, Sasuke, LDP

And great preformance Arc

I got something new to learn now
:D

Legendary Pikachu
01-16-2009, 11:52 PM
I'll see what more i can do with bombs.

PS. You can do d-air chains on stages with living targets (balloon on smashville, leaves on Canonbowel (team stage if not banned), shyguys on YI, kirby's rock) for sure cause i try that sometimes when the moment is right. Something to check for might be living "projectiles" like grenades, DDD's foward-b, Zamus's suit pieces, wario's wheel. Of course, bouncing off opponents can continue the d-airs.

Arc~

No prob Fox_is_openly_deceptive. >:D

Ah... found it... nasty lil booger.... Is this what you were talking about Fox__.._..__ (too lazy to type)? I'll post it here for the d-air.

Sincerely,
Legendary Pikachu, LDPK, still a fledgeling smashboards'er

Fox Is Openly Deceptive
01-17-2009, 05:48 PM
Yeah thats the one. I checked it out and pogo-ing won't break the chain. You can do some pretty cool things with it. Also note, it was toondiddy that found out you could chain dairs together with themselves, Bair and Uair.
(Just call me Fox, so much easier.)

Ashraf23
01-24-2009, 10:19 PM
wow that has a lot of potential. Could lead up to some really nice things.