Falco Battlefield Infinite on TLink

[pure_awesome]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=7292650#post7292650
I figured you guys might want to know that this also applies to you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PqKGFcZfhY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoNIbdI8y_s

[copacetic]

pew pew pew!

[SmokeyBBQ]

This wont be too much of a problem.
Toon Links shouldn't be standing in one spot for long anyways. Just dont stand on the platforms.

Interesting Technique. Ban BF or no dice?

[Alzi]

Dam these falco's.

>_>

[Santi]

http://www.smashboards.net/showthread.php?t=232227


I hate Falco's

[Rutger]

I thought Falco's Laser lock was common knowledge.
Maybe I'm just missing how this is different because I don't keep up with Brawl Falco. :ohwell:


Anyways, I don't think this would be too much of a problem really. It looks quite situational; it honestly doesn't concern me in the least, especially enough to ban Battle Field.
Still, better to know this now so thanks.



Ah, thanks for giving me more info on what's going on with the CG, Santi.

[Near952]

I hate Falco's

This.
10lasers

[TLMSheikant]

Guys u do understand that this will make the falco matchup a lot harder for us right? So stop joking and start testing if we can tech the splat.

[sixflags11804]

I don't think some of you guys understand that the real problem is on Pictochat. Falco can easily chain grab Toon Link to the edge, then boost pivot grab him right at the edge.

Did you guys not the the second video he posted?

[pure_awesome]

Sixflags and McDingus(lol) are right. The BF infinite is next to meaningless, really. If you're ever just chilling on a platform with Falco, you deserve to be infinited.

The much bigger problem is us CPing PictoChat against you, and the fact that on other stages we can CG to the edge, standing chaingrab, Splat, Laser for a forced stand-up, and then... pretty much whatever we want.

If you insist on playing a Falco as Toon Link, I suggest CPing Delfino Plaza, Frigate Orpheon, or other stages that shift frequently, in hopes of messing up the standing chaingrab. The logical choice is Rainbow Cruise, but most Falcos ban that anyway. Whether you want to ban PictoChat or Jungle Japes against Falco is going to be something you work out either as a community or on a personal level.

And yes, you can tech the Splat.

[sasukebowser]

Strike Battlefield, ban Picto, play gay on JJ. ._.

Ugghhhh

[Teran]

You don't really need to fret about the BF infinite.

Although, now you get really gayed by our two solid CP choices. What Sasuke said. Imo, Japes isn't even THAT great of a stage as it's made out to be. You'll also have a better fighting chance there so yeah, ban Pictochat.

Also, pick up Ice Climbers or Kirby if you hate Falco a lot.

[-Tempest-]

Interesting... Luckily, I prefer to use Zelda for the Falco matchup.

But, seems highly situational.

[DKKountry]

I laughed uncontrollably at the second video.

[Ashraf23]

Like mentioned earlier before we should always be moving and camping.

Doesnt seem like it would be easy to pull of on a TL

[Lobos]

Pictochat is banned in my region!

[sixflags11804]

Like mentioned earlier before we should always be moving and camping.

Doesnt seem like it would be easy to pull of on a TL

All it takes is one grab.

[sasukebowser]

All it takes is one grab.


Seriously.
Its not like Falco has a crappy grab. His is pretty good.
I'd just avoid the battlefield platforms (possibly except for the top one? Can a Falco main tell me if they can use that or not?) and Pictochat all together to just avoid the whole thing.

[VietGeek]

For the PictoChat semi-infinite...the hand was simply luck of the draw and the actual tech can be done even if there are no obstructions such as it there, right? And why couldn't TL tech the dthrow before the lock?

[Kewkky]

For the PictoChat semi-infinite...the hand was simply luck of the draw and the actual tech can be done even if there are no obstructions such as it there, right? And why couldn't TL tech the dthrow before the lock?
The hand doesn't stop TL's knockback after falco's dthrow. In other words, even if the hand wasn't there, you'd get the exact same results... standing cg > splat > laserlock.

Teching the splat is near impossible if you haven't practiced it for an overwhelming period of time. The timing is so strict, you'd be better off just avoiding his grabs by being more campy than usual (still, practice teching the splat whenever you have a guy to help you out).

[TLMSheikant]

The odds of a falco getting a hold of us is like 0 to none with Tink's mobility and besides we can just eat some lasers and there no more splat in battlefield, pictochat, etc. But just in case, I recommend learning how to consistently tech the splat, just in case. Also, dont get grabbed ;). Falco is no DDD.

PS- u can also SDI the lazors and fall off the platform. ;)

[oOJaseOo]

I thought TL was always suposed to have a bomb on him for the infigays (falco,D3 and IC's) to break a chain grab and shorten the window they have to approach but hey thats just me.....

[sasukebowser]

Oshi-
good point, Jase. O_O;

Wow I completely forgot about that. lol.

[sixflags11804]

For the PictoChat semi-infinite...the hand was simply luck of the draw and the actual tech can be done even if there are no obstructions such as it there, right? And why couldn't TL tech the dthrow before the lock?

The hand had nothing to do with it. It seems like it would obscure TL from going forward, but you can actually go right through it. TL just falls that way whenever chain grabbed on the edge.

And the tech is possible, but is hard to do.

[Alzi]

I don't think a toon link will ever get grabbed on a platform like that. For the picto chat thing i think it was Vlade who found that out just try your best at spacing. Don't come to close to him unless you've got him to a decent amount of % since most falco's try get a grab in early and if you keep spacing and racking up damage your already one step ahead.

[sasukebowser]

Can't you DI the lasers or something like IC's ice blocks?
Wouldn't that make it easy to stop the battlefield infinite?
And possible the pictochat one, too.

[__crystal____]

Just ban JJ as always. Chance of a CG with falco on any character in a match is limted as everyone knows to avoid it in the percent range and smart falco's will never force the grab unless the chance is pretty high.

Include the fact that the CG will likely never happen at 0% or something close to it that means trying to get the LL combo on pictochat is really hard as Falco would have to CG only 2 grabs or so and start very close the edge to begin with. Factor in all the crud that pops up and how large the stage is this will likely never happen.

Why ban a stage that really only has a very slim practical chance of working while another stage has been proven to really boost falco up.

The one that is really messed up on pictochat is DDD xD

[Silver Swordsman]

In all the games that I've ever played as TL, I have never once been grabbed on one of the platforms like that... and since when is Pictochat used in tourneys? o.o

[oOJaseOo]

Oshi-
good point, Jase. O_O;

Wow I completely forgot about that. lol.

Bout fkin time i made one lol

[Ozz.]

I hate Falco's

Oh This explains everything


:/


but anyways this is really hard to do and not practical so don't worry about it too much

[sasukebowser]

Falcos already one of TLs hardest matchups.

Evey small thing that helps him just makes it worse for us. lolz.