View Full Version : EXTREME knockback cancel with the bomb
Heavy Metal KiLLeR
08-09-2009, 10:40 AM
Hello everybody, I'm not new at the smashboards, but I never posted before, I only was watching the topics, but now I have a awesome new AT here with me, so I thought that was the time.
So, the AT...
That's a new thing I've discovered, I never seen any TL doing this before, so I think it is new. It is about a knockback cancel that can keep you alife at absurd %, while taking a powerfull move that would kill anybody, doesn't matter how good the DI.
See the video showing it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzG5drbxySk
So...How to do it?
You need to have a bomb in your hand. Then while you are flying, press the Z button to realease a zair(he will not drop the bomb). The bomb needs to explode while you are doing a zair, that will make the knockback of the move be traded to the knockback of the bomb, so...you will probaly survive, and you can DI the bomb knockback that is already short.
There is another way to do that, but is so hard to do. It is about throwing the bomb at any direction, so it needs to explode in Toons face, making the same result.
What you can't do is to just keep the bomb in your hand and it explode in the middle of the knockback, nothing will happen, the bomb will explode, but you will still with the knockback of the other move. Imagine the Santi's 3:10 combo as an exemple.
The original thread about this technique is here (if any of you understand portuguese xD)
http://s8.zetaboards.com/1UP_Smash_Board/topic/8104577/1/#new
That's all, sorry about my english, is not that good x)
Darkscyther
08-09-2009, 11:22 AM
Well thanks for sharing :)
Sasuke the Sheik Main
08-09-2009, 11:41 AM
Nice find.
Kinzer
08-09-2009, 12:11 PM
I've been sent flying away by attacks when playing doubles that would otherwise kill me if not for another attack with lesser knockback... though my memory might be a bit fuzzy and I'll have to look out for more of that.
Oh perfect example... you get sent sideways, and just when you're about to hit the blastzone you get blown up by Snake's Grenade, which sort of cushions the knockback... or not even cushion it, but redirect it and have different knockback all-together.
So why do you need to do a Z-Air, doesn't just getting blown up work? (yes, I read the OP)
Looticforgothispassword
08-09-2009, 12:17 PM
haha we link mains has known this for a time now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHSfjTFmfiE
of course I am not saying that you are bad or anything, I just find it funny that you havent found it, lol
Twinkie
08-09-2009, 12:20 PM
I've been sent flying away by attacks when playing doubles that would otherwise kill me if not for another attack with lesser knockback... though my memory might be a bit fuzzy and I'll have to look out for more of that.
Oh perfect example... you get sent sideways, and just when you're about to hit the blastzone you get blown up by Snake's Grenade, which sort of cushions the knockback... or not even cushion it, but redirect it and have different knockback all-together.
So why do you need to do a Z-Air, doesn't just getting blown up work? (yes, I read the OP)
If you don't Z-Air, your momentum won't be cancelled. You'll just fly right through it like Santi's 3:10. When you Z-air, the bomb will stop your momentum and make you slowly go upwards.
Kinzer
08-09-2009, 12:21 PM
Can you please provide the video which explains this 3:10 time?
Remember I'm not a T.Link main/boarder, so I won't follow on everything.
Sasuke the Sheik Main
08-09-2009, 12:22 PM
It's not important.
UncleSam
08-09-2009, 01:29 PM
of course I am not saying that you are bad or anything, I just find it funny that you havent found it, lol
that's because we've focused on everything else...
nice find btw, though I feel it's a bit situational
Twinkie
08-09-2009, 02:04 PM
that's because we've focused on everything else...
nice find btw, though I feel it's a bit situational
I honestly thought everybody knew about it, and that it wasn't worth bringing up. :/
It's happened to me numerous times, but I didn't think much of it.
watch this go to 3:10 that is why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELCRQK-f478
TLMSheikant
08-09-2009, 02:18 PM
This has happened to me before. Situational.
A~Kid/ToonethLinkage
08-09-2009, 02:33 PM
The chances of this happening is very slim. If you pull it off then that's great. But not that useful seing as how hard it is to do and the bomb has to explode RIGHT before you go to your death. Still pretty nice.
~mjg~
08-09-2009, 05:14 PM
Good stuff..Very situational
Nice, although I thought this was common knowledge, it's similar to timing the Dair spike so the bomb explodes and you don't suicide.
Ashraf23
08-11-2009, 12:00 AM
I dont think you can really time this in a match though, it just happens by luck or something.
-Tempest-
08-11-2009, 12:12 AM
Indeed. Everyone said it was situational when I brought it up a long time ago as well. :P
Riickable
09-02-2009, 02:27 PM
It's good, but don't rely on it.
My Tink usually has a bomb in his hand.
shadow1pj
09-07-2009, 03:15 PM
i threw my bombo up then got upsmashed into it but innstead of hitting then dying i hit it and stopped completely ill have a vid up shortly
Looticforgothispassword
09-12-2009, 04:27 AM
I still think its funny that exactly one month we links find it you "find" it. XD
shadow1pj
09-12-2009, 12:32 PM
I still think its funny that exactly one month we links find it you "find" it. XD
lol so what god you links get on my nerves with that omg rofl we found this back when colombus sailed either share what you find with us tls or be quiet dont come telling us when you found it
Heavy Metal KiLLeR
09-12-2009, 02:19 PM
I think (I'm not sure) Link doesn't need to zair to make the bomb cancel the knockback...That make things easier :P
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