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Tiller420
10-27-2004, 03:48 PM
g&w is not a bad low tier char or not bad in general. His moves have awsome hit blocks and effective smashes and his down tilt is god. His up smash is ****ing tender

I think his recovery is one of the best also

footnbaseball
10-27-2004, 04:29 PM
im pretty sure this has been said a few times...

hes so low on the tier list because hes very light, has a bad shield, useless roll, and several useless moves.

also, i really wouldnt recommend up smash unless you set up for it, otherwise up tilt is a much better option.

teflon_climbers
11-01-2004, 01:24 AM
He's definitly Low Teir, Tiller.

Did you know that Bowser can kill him at 85%? Ganon rapes GaW, and most characters can juggle him out so he can't recover. or else they can edge hog -- he's notoriously vulnrable to that.

Emacee
11-01-2004, 10:51 AM
I've never had much of a problem with edgehoggers as G&W. His vertical recovery is so high it tends to negate edgehog.

VilNess
11-01-2004, 04:42 PM
me neither. If they are stupid to go too early you can always take advantage of the upBīs marth-like speed and hit them...
or just throw a sausage at the ledge before the firemanjump. Note this isnīt always possible because it cuts some of your recovery distance.

fraypika
11-03-2004, 04:42 PM
yea i starting to pick up g&w just to have a cool character..... i am allright but not that great. You really gotta get down l canceling to be real successful with him in my experience anyways. Some characters you might be able to get away with not l canceling all of your moves successfully.

Does anybody every use him at tourny level?

Hoefler
11-03-2004, 05:23 PM
Tiller42...whatever...

you forgot his crazy/unbeatable manhole!!

wh04 gyZ!1 it pwnZ s0 hrad!!