Impossible Ganon manuever?

[The Cape]

After playing smash for a few hours you see some random things, just as my drop, jump, and Uair from ledge with Ganon and landing on the stage.

At first I didnt know what I had seen, then I tryed it again later in training, and it works. I have only managed to do it twice, but I am curious if someone with AR can test the frames?

[Thomas Tipman]

this has been known, best thing about it is that as soon as uair hits your right on the ground so you can l-cancels quick and follow up. i also think nair can be pulled off too (you can also dair but it wont hit you'll just get back on stage).

to pull it off consistantly hit the c-stick back and the control stick up and towards the stag, then uair.

im not sure exacly what the frame data is (though i have tested it with AR) if you grab the ledge and abuse the invicebility frames you could have the uair hit before your invicebility frames run out giving you a safe ledge attack. this is also a great maneuver to use when coming out of an inifinite edge hog (switching it up with ledge dashes and what not).

[Cyphus]

yea...i've done this on accident a few times...
i mean..i always try to do it..but i just regrab the ledge..i never i'd actually makae it on top...
wish it were a little easier to do

[Thomas Tipman]

to pull it off consistantly hit the c-stick back and the control stick up and towards the stag, then uair.

try it this way, as soon as you hit the c-stick back hit diagonal foward up instantly than uair. this is by far the easiest way, i can pull it off everytime with no probs. make sure you flick the c-stick without holding it out long or else you might end up doing a bair (rarly happens once you get the hang of it).

[The Cape]

Originally posted by Thomas Tipman
try it this way, as soon as you hit the c-stick back hit diagonal foward up instantly than uair. this is by far the easiest way, i can pull it off everytime with no probs. make sure you flick the c-stick without holding it out long or else you might end up doing a bair (rarly happens once you get the hang of it).

It was hard only doing it with the control stick. I will have to try it this way.

[Kaotical]

I can pull this off somewhat consistently and I don't use the c-stick at all. I just hit the analog stick down, jump almost immediately afterwards, then hold the analog stick up and towards the stage and hit A at the same time. It works like half the time for me. Still trying to perfect this.

[DYC]

Instead of using down to drop off the ledge you should try back on the control stick Kaotical. this way you don't FF and get that much more out of your second jump back onto the stage.

[Thomas Tipman]

personally i think the c-stick is the best way since your DI is always foward and never back. i can do it everytime on a dime with the c-stick and found it to be usfull for reverse uair edge guard while being invinceble (mwahahaha mario that hitbox aint **** now).

[Kaotical]

I just can't hit the jump button (I use X) and then hit the c-stick fast enough to get the attack out fast enough, so I hit up on the analog stick because I'm using my second jump coming back so it doesn't matter if I hit up. I find hitting back more useful, so thanks DYC.

[Thomas Tipman]

i think you got confused on what i was trying to say, this is how it goes; you hit the c-stick back as your holding on the ledge as soon as you let go of the ledge hit diagonal up towards the stage. this way your DI is always towards the stage and you always make it back on uair or not (also i luair with the c-stick but im sure the A button shouldnt make too much of a difference).

[The_Krumber]

Originally posted by Thomas Tipman
personally i think the c-stick is the best way since your DI is always foward and never back. i can do it everytime on a dime with the c-stick and found it to be usfull for reverse uair edge guard while being invinceble (mwahahaha mario that hitbox aint **** now).

i pesronally use the c-stick also, i find it much easier, and just like tipman says, better for reverse uairs.

way to go tipman :beezo: :beezo: :beezo: :beezo: :beezo: :cool: :cool: :cool:

[Zarelid]

yeah you can also wave dash back on the stage too, I do this ever so often.