doc vs falco

[Fasting]

strats?
post them here

[DarkRoom]

Kevin too much to handle? XD

[Fasting]

no no. no... no

...no

its more for teh phear 0v 7ef10n

[Cyphus]

try not to get hit by teh lazer, and cape his re covery!!!!11shift+1




hm...but seriously...
WDing and F.Tilt are your friends in countering his crazy SHLaser approaches.
though difficult to get a grab on him...when u do, u really have to make the best of it and either UpThrow to UpSmash/UpAerials, D.Throw to F.Smash, or just B.Throw by the ledge.
Pill rushes are....ok, i guess. Falco's don't 'really' want to use the reflector to actually reflect because of the lag it gives him leaving him open to counter attack(even if u get hit by the projectile, in a pillrush, u still usually have time or a retaliation hit)
Flying Sex kicks work probably best offensively. From either a Sh rush, or a full jump into a FF dropping one, they make it alot easier to cancel into a maybe-grab afterward.

Once u get on falco's ***, never get off...dont' give him a chance to regain his form. ex. If you send him a tiny bit ways, get ready to WD-grab, for when he techs/rolls. D.Smash by ledges work great too w/ his fall speed and its better reach.

[Fasting]

the only thing that usually gets me is that **** drill... (well no ****),
but i seem to have a problem avoiding it, im sure theres a way to punish it cause i see it coming every time, i just cant find a way.

(read downwardly like)

example1:---------------------------------2:
falco really high above ff dair.--------------falco really high above ff dair.
doc wd back anticipating dair--------------doc shields
falco shine--------------------------------falco shines and jumps away
doc go up---------------------------------rinse repeat
falco dair
doc in a **** storm


this is obviously extremely simplified, but the point is when he's comin at you with the drill... now what?

[Cyphus]

WD backwards into pills. or UpTilt as he comes down...you can even UpB him, on platform stages safely.

but its prolly best to just beat him out in the air w/ your B.Air...WD away, then WD backwards towards him w/ a rising B.Air.
Either that or retreating pill spam works fine for me

[Mic_128]

Cape his recovery. It hurts like keck.:(

[zachaser]

If you ever manage to knock Falco off, he shouldn't come back. Besides the obvious cape, which most good Falcos will expect, get on that edge and hog it. From here, b-air is your friend, as you can interrupt the illusion or firebird. Seriously, from the edgehog position, doc can destroy falco. If he comes in from below with the firebird, b-air before it shoots off. If he's level or slightly above, ledgehop to b-air.

[Fasting]

im no scrub, cyphus gave me some help, didnt need the spam afterward.

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[The Cape]

Originally posted by Cyphus
WD backwards into pills. or UpTilt as he comes down...you can even UpB him, on platform stages safely.

but its prolly best to just beat him out in the air w/ your B.Air...WD away, then WD backwards towards him w/ a rising B.Air.
Either that or retreating pill spam works fine for me

For the shining of the sheild and jumping away, you can sheild dash to a SH dair and combo into something from there. Since his drill hits low you can aim for his head and hopefully bring a small combo into play.