Recovery tips for Falco

[Pendez]

I play against my friend who is marth and when i get to the edge of the level after recovering he always hits me and repeats this til i die :mad: . Can u suggest any moves to use and also if there is a way to sorta boost Falco's recovery :confused: . Cheers/

[Mic_128]

Hits you with what? Which attack?

[Pendez]

marths left A smash, either that or an up A if i try and jump. im kinda noobish which is why i need help :P

[spKz]

Marth = teh edge guarder :(
If i remeber righlty in a guide a read once SHL Spam It against marth works wonders
other then that
try to hang on ledge then drop use firebird (Up - B) L Cancel It Then punish him :) Hope Thats helps

[Endkil]

If you're not doing so (I don't think you are), try sweetspotting the ledge (I think that's the term used?). What this means is that you should end your Up+B right at the ledge. It'll be tricky for him to hit you if you come from below and just barely grab the ledge. From there you can get back pretty easily.

But I'm not exactly a Falco expert. ;p

[Pendez]

thanks guys. only problem i have left is getting back on the stage coz i cant do falcos recovery two-footed kick even coz i get smashed and then i go further and cant even recover to the edge of the level. as i sed, im a n00b :p

[spKz]

Like I said, Use Shl to retreat (Short Hop Laser) then Maybe a few mind games Shffl (short Fast Fall L cancel) Dair (Down while in with A) Shine (down b)
Then he will be like OMG YOU TEH PWNZERS!!!11!
I also recomend reading a Guide in character specfic

[Pendez]

cheers. ur a big help. now to master it

[krazyzyko]

If you're in the edge, don't waste your invincibility smelling his boots!

Press the R/L button and you will roll under him with some invincibility frames.

Sweetspot the edge with the Firebird....don't keep the joystick tilted to the direction you want to go too long or Falky will ignore it and you will perform a nasty Kamikazee lol.

If you try to slice through him with the phantasm.....DON'T! He will probably side smash,shield break or counter your A5S. Cancel the phantasm right before reaching the edge(by pressing the B buttton the moment you wish to cancel it.) and you will hang on it alive!

If you want to penetrate with an attack, ledgehop spike and begin the pillar.

If this is too hard for you to perform I recomend you to to read the guides.....Good Luck!

..........later

[Pendez]

aright cool. dunno how long it'll take me to get that done but thanks.

[falco_prodigy]

That was a good post by Krazyzyko. Unless you're below the ledge, ALWAYS use Falco Phantasm (over+B) to sweetspot it, and cancel it as soon as you can (but late enough to make it on...). If you're above the edge, and judging by where your opponent is, you should FALL until you're parallel to the edge, then sweetspot it.

If you're having trouble getting back on the platform itself when you're hanging on the ledge, a trick I always use is as follows (this is in Final Destination, though it would really work most places):

-drop from the edge
-DI toward the side of the platform
-Walljump off of the side of the platform
-Phantasm back onto the ledge (be sure to cancel it)
-NOW THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART...keep doing this for a random amount of times, and eventually, Marth MAY let his guard down and you can just Phantasm right through him.

Now this trick may only work once a match or so, but the point is, BE RANDOM. If you're recovering the same way each time, your opponent will catch on fairly quick. That trick works for me again half-decent players, idk how good it'd be against your friend, but hey, it never hurts to try it. (Actually it might ;) )

[Pendez]

kk. im not very good at smash but im practicing so this ought to help. thanks guy