Falco Help Plz

[Asian Fury]

Ok lately ive been playing and after i dair my opponent into the ground, ive been dtilting instead of uptilting. it seems to be more effective becuz u get more damage and it seems to stun ur oppponent longer than the up tilt which allows u to dair again or another aerial. any1 else think so asa well?

and my next question is does luigi have more priority in the air than falco? becuz i was not playing seriously against my friends luigi and everytime i tried to dair on him he managed to break through it with his fair and his dair. is it becuz its the timing or does luigi actually have more priority?

and my last question: is there any way of surviving when ur hit off the stage? its been a real problem with me. i get hit off the edge at 30% and i cant get back onto the stage. i usually jump and try to side b unto the ledge if im over it or beside it to sweet spot and becuz it has a better horizontal recovery than the fire bird. and i use firebird when im under the stage. but i still cant get back some times. is there any tips or am i doing something wrong?

[biggz]

dtilt is good, although i prefer to shine them back up for another dair or nair

not sure, i dont play too many luigis

at 30% thats kind of ugly, i dont think you should die unless its a really wierd hit angle (i've been there) but falco's recovery does suck pretty bad

[ky]

I prefer a utilt to a short hop dair into a shine combo

I think luigi has more priority

as for dieing at 30% it would depend on how you got hit and how close to the edge you were cause as know falco has such bad recovery

[bornfidelity.com]

Luigi has awesome priority. But so have you, try bair some more.
Dtilt is just another thing. If you mean dtilt after you daired someone from above, the uptilt has higher range so will hit earlier. The dtilt gives your foe more time to get out of the combo. But more importantly, dtilt has knockback thats way harder to combo out of than uptilt.

And you SHOULD
NOT
DIE
AT 30% >_>'
please give us some vids

and reconsider that part about phantasm having more horizontal range than firebird. ;)

[MyKo]

help us out by showing examples from your vids.

i'd like to advise you as well.

[SNKE]

Myko's Advise : All you need to do is short hop drill L cancel shine waveshine repeat, and you're SET!!!

lol nah bro j/k you know me, we go way back XD

But Asain Fury, do get some vids

[Falco101]

definetely use the firebird, not the phantasm... aim it at a 45 degree angle above the stage... when you get hit, start tapping jump as fast as you can (use x/y, not the control stick) and at the peak of the jump, that's when you use the firebird. other than that... no, you shouldn't be dying at 30%.

[bornfidelity.com]

why tapping jump? just learn when you can move again and shinecancel with second jump to stop momentum ^^

[Kragen]

It is more benificial (tricky word...) to shinecancel first and then jump? Or can you just jump?

[bornfidelity.com]

shine cancels your momentum, so after suffering say marths fsmash, shining will stop you from moving backwards and jumping out of it moves you forwards. just jumping would be jumping forwards while still moving backwards from the hit = bad
and it looks cool :P

[MyKo]

still no vids?.. - _-

[bornfidelity.com]

not everyone can spam the net with vids like you do myko :P

[Kragen]

shine cancels your momentum, so after suffering say marths fsmash, shining will stop you from moving backwards and jumping out of it moves you forwards. just jumping would be jumping forwards while still moving backwards from the hit = bad
and it looks cool :P

Right, thanks for the tip. I'll start doing it ;)

[bornfidelity.com]

Well, the thing is, you have to be VERY careful with using this.
if you accidentally lost your second jump, using this you cant cancel it and youll drop until the entire shine is over, after that you most likely cant recover anymore. so only use when you are sure you have your second jump left. or for mindgames :p