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Sensai
05-14-2006, 11:29 AM
Haha to the guy above me. Ya never know about that red plumber, though. He's mysterious.

:bigrocket :samus: i say we should be able to customize our own characters

This would be REAL dumb. It'd make the game really really broken, and just take it even FARTHER from Nintendo.

SonicZeroX
05-14-2006, 11:31 AM
I'd be cool to see some SC2/3 chars. Especially Talim.
If Nintendo chars can appear in SC2, I can't see why it can't happen the other way around.

BentoBox
05-14-2006, 11:32 AM
What I was saying is that the same would happen with Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong, the same that happened with Link and Young Link.
It would be two characters with the same moves, maybe a lil bit different, but they would act very much the same way. If I had to pick a character from Donkey Kong, I would pick King K. Rool. Because he's different. I can't really see him charging up a super punch like Donkey Kong. We need heavy weight fighters anyway.

Open for debate.

Diddy kong having a weak muscular structure when compared to DK, I really don't see him packing has much punch and thus can't really picture him as a clone~ Diddy kong could use jetpacks as a recovery move, he could use guns, could swing his tail around to hit people... Donkey Kong 64 anyone?

Antioch
05-14-2006, 11:42 AM
I'd be cool to see some SC2/3 chars. Especially Talim.
If Nintendo chars can appear in SC2, I can't see why it can't happen the other way around.

SC2/3 has absolutely nothing to do with brawl.
that's why.

ZMan
05-14-2006, 11:44 AM
I forgot Thomas Lee from Kung Fu! That game was the shiz-niz! He need to be the Bruce Lee ripoff for Brawl!

smash~bomber
05-14-2006, 12:18 PM
actually, i agree with soniczerox, link DID appear in soul caliber after all, so why the hellz not the other way around? oh, and btw, link also has absolutely nothing to do with soul caliber either, but why is he in there in the first place? because nintendo allowed him to be, thats why, and make sure you do alittle research before saying such noobish stuff like that, or maybe antioch doesnt know about sc3 on th gcn? (btw, i aint calling anybody a noob, im only refferring to people who are ignorant enough to totally forget about what the first person was talking about. so meh.) :ohwell:

WarioFartPower
05-14-2006, 12:51 PM
I want to see at least one more character from the Zelda series in there. And I don't mean a sub-character of the same character, eg. dark Link, oni-Link, I mean a new seperate character.

Any one of these three Zelda characters would be a brilliant addition to the game:

Nabooru
Impa
Skull Kid (wearing Majora's Mask)

Sensai
05-14-2006, 01:55 PM
I want to see at least one more character from the Zelda series in there. And I don't mean a sub-character of the same character, eg. dark Link, oni-Link, I mean a new seperate character.

Any one of these three Zelda characters would be a brilliant addition to the game:

Nabooru
Impa
Skull Kid (wearing Majora's Mask)

Skull Kid's a thought...he'd be a great addition to the game.

Visual
05-14-2006, 01:59 PM
Vaati. NAO.

Oh, and that thing from Clu Clu Land.

Gooey would make a cool Kirby clone...

Sensai
05-14-2006, 02:03 PM
Gooey would make a cool Kirby clone...

NO. MORE. CLONES.

Seriously, why do yall want clones? Just a waste of time.

Silver Flame
05-14-2006, 02:27 PM
I'm hoping for Blaziken, Dexoys, Marshstomp, Wolf. and Krystal

Sensai
05-14-2006, 02:28 PM
I'm hoping for Blaziken, Dexoys, Marshstomp, Wolf. and Krystal

I'd like to see Wolf, too. How would they do him though? I figure it'd be just another Fox clone, and I really don't want anymore clones.

Nite
05-14-2006, 02:33 PM
Yea, I hate the idea of having any more clones and I think that they should be a little more creative and make every character have different movesets.

BooThunder
05-14-2006, 02:37 PM
dragon ball z chars!! look how well it worked for jump superstars they're the perfect fit for a smash bros game they have the same physics and theyd have some sick moves and the concept of those broken super attacks that are now in brawl were basically invented by the dragon ball z franchise. and yeah whoever said there should be soul caliber chars is right because nintendo let link be in their game so why not show them the same courtesy

WarioFartPower
05-14-2006, 02:43 PM
I'm hoping for Blaziken, Dexoys, Marshstomp, Wolf. and Krystal

Personally I don't want to see any more pokemon characters, but if they must add more, I hope they at least get rid of Pichu and Jigglypuff. They are terrible characters...

WarioFartPower
05-14-2006, 02:44 PM
I reckon Link should have the ability to transform into his Wolf form like in TP. That would rock!

WarioFartPower
05-14-2006, 02:46 PM
And Darunia would be a great addition to the game too. Imagine Darunia vs DK, what a match that would be!

Silver Flame
05-14-2006, 02:46 PM
jiggy wont be removed he was in SSB and melee
no dbz chars their fighting games are way different
they also make way too many of them
normally they have 50 to 100 chars in them

Lance87
05-14-2006, 02:49 PM
I would like to see captain olimar with some pikmin trailing behind, he could be set up similar to the ice climbers.

I think clones are ok, those of you who actually know how to play smash know that the clones in melee are two completely different characters...in a tournament sense.

*edit*

Darunia would be interesting. :)

Jonathan Shen
05-14-2006, 04:15 PM
Urh...you people need to remember that there are certain rules of AESTHETICS and FUNCTION that apply to the sort of characters that are included in Melee. The characters also have to have some kind of significance in the storeyline of the series they come from. This means that Shy Guy, being a minion, and Toad, being an extra, would simply not work. Generally, Smash characters are main heroes, strong support characters, popular sidekicks and major/minor villains. The characters are USUALLY biped, or shaped in such a way that would make them "work" in a fighting game. Try to imagine the character jumping, doing back flips, rolling, side dodging and there are a lot of characters who simply wouldn't work. The characters also have to have a lot of charisma, with a lot of symols and trademark attributes that can be used. A character such as...ooh, Slippy for example just doesn't have the same "stuff" that the main hero Fox/Falco does. Hard to explain, but does anyone know what I'm on about?

Couldn't have said it much better myself. Most characters in the original SSB and SSBM were pretty much biped even Pikachu/Pichu at some points. However, about Slippy... He does tend to invent and work on different types of machinery in the StarFox series so there may be other ways to get around Fox/Falco's speediness.

Upon the issue of Snake from the MGS series, although I do adore him, it's not really that big of a deal since it obviously doesn't affect the MGS series at all in any way shape of form. Heck, I wouldn't be suprised if an unlikely, but possible character like Leon S. Kennedy from Resident Evil 4 were to show up somewhere. Considering that RE4 was originally made for the GCN can spark possibilities of him maybe showing up in SSBB. I could only dream of including more RE characters such as Jill Valentine from RE (she also showed up in Marvel vs. Capcom), Ada Wong (RE2, RE4), Jack Krauser (RE2, RE4), and even Albert Wesker (RE2, RE4), but that would be too much. Leon does have the moves if any of you has played through all of RE4 (especially the knife fight between Leon and Krauser in chapter 5-3 of RE4). It may be awkward to see him double-jump, but he can definitely roll (crashing through windows), backflip (fight with El Gigante, U-3 ("It"), etc.), most types of dodging (which tends to be crouching... a lot). Leon does specialize in firearms but his combat knife seems to be more of his trademark weapon. Thankfully, he can use explosives such as Rocket Launchers, Mine Throwers, and Flash/Frag/Incendiary grenades so there's even more thought that can be given to him.

About my list... Er... I'll post that a little later when I organize all the possible characters first. >.< But Leon S. Kennedy is the first on my list. @.@

Sm00th_Crim1nal
05-14-2006, 04:21 PM
Nintendo:
Ridley(Metroid)
Dark Samus(metroid)
Space Pirate(Metroid)
Star Wolf(Star Fox)
Shy Guy(Mario)
Zora Link(Zelda)
Fierce Diety Link(Zelda)
Werewolf Link(Zelda)
Gdorf with his own moveset(Zelda)
Raichu(Pokemon)

Third Party:
Sonic(duh :chuckle: )
Viewtiful Joe(Capcom)
Megaman(Capcom)
Zero(Capcom)
Bomberman(Hudson)

WarioFartPower
05-14-2006, 05:02 PM
Nintendo:
Ridley(Metroid)
Dark Samus(metroid)
Space Pirate(Metroid)
Star Wolf(Star Fox)
Shy Guy(Mario)
Zora Link(Zelda)
Fierce Diety Link(Zelda)
Werewolf Link(Zelda)
Gdorf with his own moveset(Zelda)
Raichu(Pokemon)

Third Party:
Sonic(duh :chuckle: )
Viewtiful Joe(Capcom)
Megaman(Capcom)
Zero(Capcom)
Bomberman(Hudson)

Too many sub-characters, do we really need three more Links? That's five Link's all in the same game. And Raichu, yet another form of Pikachu.

Mido02
05-14-2006, 05:11 PM
maybe instead of zora link and soo on it should be the actual zora Mikau. he would look sweet in smash especially how i liked him more than zora link. :)

FoxDash
05-14-2006, 05:11 PM
I agree with not putting in minor chars. Someone may have said this but id like to see Krystal but not Slippy ..i mean who really wants to be slippy? really? If they gave krystal a staff with some magic that would be ******. If you put in minor charcters like shyguys or goombas or Poes it wouldnt make sense because there all enemies that can be beaten easliy in they games they come from it wouldnt make sense for them to get strong enough to fight the main char. Im fine with Bosses though because they are strong and have to do with stories thats why i want RIDLEY

SuperFast
05-14-2006, 05:14 PM
i think that mallow and lakitu should be in the new game. i havent seen a lot of people want lakitu

BentoBox
05-14-2006, 05:25 PM
For all the people wanting Ridley in the game, take a look at this : http://www.gccafe.com/e3/2006/wii/mpcorruptionboss_e32006.wmv

[Metroid Prime 3 footage of Samus fighting Ridley]

Now tell me if after seeing this, you really see ridley as a playable char? I sure don't >_<" MetaKnight is prolly as big as Ridley's head~ They'd have to scale him down soooo~ much >_>

WarioFartPower
05-14-2006, 05:31 PM
Here's my list:

Skull Kid (wearing Majora's Mask, he would be awesome)

Krystal (Star Fox fans would love her to be there)

Darunia (him and DK could slug it out, would be an awesome match)!

Impa (martial arts is her speciality, such a strong fighter shouldn't be left out)

Nabooru (just think of what she could do with those scimitars, her skill would be incredible)

Star Wolf (moves might be a little too similar to Fox's, but they could be altered)

I also think that Link should have the ability to transform into either Oni-Link or the wolf in TP.

urazhunfriend
05-14-2006, 05:45 PM
From what I've heard, there's a pool going on in Japan, which is serving kind of like a petition for new characters in SSBB. The most popular characters right now are Sonic, Tails, Viewtiful Joe, and Megaman, so basically all Capcom characters. Nintendo will have to negotiate with Capcom in order for this to happen.

McFox
05-14-2006, 05:54 PM
Geno.

Skull Kid + Majora's Mask.

Geno.

Diddy Kong.

Mallow.

Geno.

Koopa Troopa.

Geno.

Sonic.

Fawful.

Geno.

Megaman.

Geno.

And have I mentioned Geno?

WarioFartPower
05-14-2006, 05:56 PM
From what I've heard, there's a pool going on in Japan, which is serving kind of like a petition for new characters in SSBB. The most popular characters right now are Sonic, Tails, Viewtiful Joe, and Megaman, so basically all Capcom characters. Nintendo will have to negotiate with Capcom in order for this to happen.

Since when were Sonic and Tails Capcom characters?

Mido02
05-14-2006, 05:58 PM
King Boo is no minion and would actually be a great boss 4 the 1st level in adventure mode.

that's another thing i know they said they will improve adventure mode this time around so it really has some depth and now i can rejoice and cheer! my suggestions are that adventure mode should have levels or something. like once you beat Master Hand & Crazy Hand lvl 2 pops up at the starting menu 4 adventure mode.

there should also be sub-bosses such as Dark Link and Stalfos! each adventure mode should be different 4 each character and resemble the game they are actually from. i'm not saying Link should never enter the brinkstar depths i'm just saying the final lvl should be from the actual game itself. imagine it, Mario is off fighting earthbound aliens, then suddenly he is attacked by some bounty hunters who are trying 2 stop him from saving Princess Peach from Bowser!
that would be really great if they twisted all the Nintendo storylines in2 1 4 each character, 4 example: Donkey Kong escaping the pokemon trainers who are trying 2 capture him then finds himself stuck hiding in a pipe where a young beautiful lady(Princess Peach) saves him eventually DK falling in love kidnaps Peach!!!

I would really wanna see Ganon as Link's/Young Link's/Zelda's/Shiek's as their final boss after defeating lvl 5 or something like that. Ganon 2 me should only be a boss and not a playable character because he is just too big and evil 2 be playable. hahaha imagine Link as the final boss 4 Ganondorf!!!

this would give the possibilities 4 the people who want 2 see characters in smash but just wouldn't work or make the cut. such as Toad, Boo, Shy Guy. Peppy, Polar Bear, Hammer Bros, if they can't be in smash, might as well put them in adventure mode as fightable characters or allies. :)





ohh yea also why would Twilight Princess Link transform in2 Oni Link? and besides Oni Link deserves 2 be a separate character from Link. being able 2 transform in2 a stronger form is pointless and has no balance. Zelda/Shiek was the only transformation that will work.

BentoBox
05-14-2006, 06:02 PM
From what I've heard, there's a pool going on in Japan, which is serving kind of like a petition for new characters in SSBB. The most popular characters right now are Sonic, Tails, Viewtiful Joe, and Megaman, so basically all Capcom characters. Nintendo will have to negotiate with Capcom in order for this to happen.

Source plox?

Mr.C
05-14-2006, 06:33 PM
sonic
knuckles
wolf
waluigi
phoenix from fzero
maybe some more fireeblem chars
diddykong
megaman
zero
Krystal ..starfox

maybe cloud, but then again if he was in 90% of the smash community would main him.

I hope they dont add to much , 13 new characters were put in from ssb to melee to put it at 25 characters I hope they only put 15 new chars to max it out at 40.

McFox
05-14-2006, 06:42 PM
It's not a pool.

There's a submission form where Japanese players can submit their ideas directly to the team working on the game.

I don't know how there's a general consensus about who has been submitted, considering that, from what I understand, it's individual submissions.

See West Coast Wes' topic for more information about it.

K.I.N.G
05-14-2006, 06:46 PM
GEOMON (From legend of the mystical ninja) (kid ying: US)

BentoBox
05-14-2006, 06:58 PM
It's not a pool.

There's a submission form where Japanese players can submit their ideas directly to the team working on the game.

I don't know how there's a general consensus about who has been submitted, considering that, from what I understand, it's individual submissions.

See West Coast Wes' topic for more information about it.

Yeah I know~ And that's why I was wondering where he got that info from =/

*Thrash*
05-14-2006, 07:01 PM
Unlockable Giga Bowser, anyone?

Y34HDUD3!!!
05-14-2006, 07:05 PM
it would b great seeing zero vs pit.

asianpride3491
05-14-2006, 07:07 PM
Since its no longer Nintendo Inclusive, Id enjoy seeing the Shaolin Soccer Brothers in There.

EdreesesPieces
05-14-2006, 07:29 PM
They could separate Diddy and Donkey the same way DK64 does it. They are two ENTIRELY different characters in that game.