View Full Version : Um guys, we've got a problem *cries*
GreenKirby
05-22-2006, 09:11 PM
It might be true that not all 26 original characters from SSBM are going to return to Brawl. Here's the link: http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/bn/no8.html
It's at the bottom in gray. If anybody can read Japanese.
I just don't know what to say. From Sheik, even to Pichu, they're all great in their own. *cries* :cry: :cry: :cry:
Marshy
05-22-2006, 09:12 PM
Calm down, they're probably just removing the crap characters and some of the clones. Also, we knew there was a possibility of some characters being pulled, so it's not really a big deal. I'll be glad if pichu is gone and geno is there.
HyperTheHedgehog
05-22-2006, 09:15 PM
Im to lazy to translate, can anyone please do it?
It might be true that not all 26 original characters from SSBM are going to return to Brawl. Here's the link: http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/bn/no8.html
It's at the bottom in gray. If anybody can read Japanese.
I just don't know what to say. From Sheik, even to Pichu, they're all great in their own. *cries* :cry: :cry: :cry:
"Also the previous production, increased 26 bodies even densely in the desperate thinking.
The ‚ß ‚¿‚á oral ‚á persevering, adhering, number.
So, being visible in the same character as the previous production
This time on a considerable scale it becomes recreating. Such rubbing, it does."
That's the bottom translated. It sounds like he might be saying they're all back in, but I wouldn't know how to call it. That's the best the translator could give me.
commonyoshi
05-22-2006, 09:17 PM
If this is true, I will be so happy. Here is my chance to gloat before someone comes along and corrects the article... Ahahahahaha! I told you! I told you all! Mewtwo doesn't belong in this game! Mewtwo was a loser! Kill the weak off! They can not get better! Ahahahahahaha! Fools! I am right! You are wrong! The weak have been separated and are being deleted! Die die die! Ahahahaha!...That felt good.:)
GreenKirby
05-22-2006, 09:17 PM
First of all, none of characters are 'crap.' Some just have more advantages. And if they remove some characters, it'll upset the people who play as them. There are more Bowser and Pichu players thank you think.
And unless they mean uncloning the clones, I'm not going to calm down.
nealdt
05-22-2006, 09:19 PM
It is not completed. The bean jam ball it is not wise, however, as for lie being not to attach the book it is and the (CHA) is.
(CHARACTERS) of the previous production decreases some oak and others. Securely.
Also the previous production, increased 26 bodies even densely in the desperate thinking.
The (ME-CHA) oral (YA) persevering, adhering, number.
So, being visible in the same character as the previous production
This time on a considerable scale it becomes recreating. Such rubbing, it does.
The staff being increased however much temporarily, regardless at same war potential skillfully
Is not the case that it makes if and, your own work do not decrease, there is a limit.
So, as for the reflection and the like of the customer - the (KU) it is understood.
It probably will be delightful for (CHARACTER) which adapts to participate with another stage and.
Therefore, in addition it keeps making (CHARACTER) desperately.
You can promise only that, don't you think?.
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It's hard to translate, but what I believe he's saying is that they'll try and get all the old characters in, and that's all he can promise.
_the_sandman_
05-22-2006, 09:20 PM
Maybe they'll change them up a bit? Perhaps Dr. Mario will actually hold Difibrillators for his Smash attack? He could even use needles for some moves.
Or they could do something extreme like, completely changing a characters looks but not the moves. For example, get rid of Pichu, but replace him with Torchic. They'll have the same moves but look different.
Lastly they could improve characters entirely like Mewtwo.
BlackJack
05-22-2006, 09:23 PM
If this is the japanese version of the site, isnt there an english version?
Lord_Deathborne
05-22-2006, 09:24 PM
I don't think you should lump Bowser in there with Pichu, now...
Well I'll admit I had fun beating the living **** out Pichu, Dr. Mario, Flaco, and Ganondorf, but I won't shed any tears if they don't make the cut (Infact, I absolutely hate Ganon since SSBM. Falco's kinda grown on me though...).
If this is the japanese version of the site, isnt there an english version?
The English version is being worked on but isn't done yet.
nealdt
05-22-2006, 09:25 PM
No. These are from messages posted by Sakurai in response to suggestions from the character suggestion form. They're all in Japanese only.
Marshy
05-22-2006, 09:25 PM
If this is true, I will be so happy. Here is my chance to gloat before someone comes along and corrects the article... Ahahahahaha! I told you! I told you all! Mewtwo doesn't belong in this game! Mewtwo was a loser! Kill the weak off! They can not get better! Ahahahahahaha! Fools! I am right! You are wrong! The weak have been separated and are being deleted! Die die die! Ahahahaha!...That felt good.:)
This coming from a guy who has ShyGuy as an avatar.
Marshy
05-22-2006, 09:29 PM
First of all, none of characters are 'crap.' Some just have more advantages. And if they remove some characters, it'll upset the people who play as them. There are more Bowser and Pichu players thank you think.
And unless they mean uncloning the clones, I'm not going to calm down.
I never bashed on Bowser to begin with, and I'm sure there would be more Geno players than Pichu players. Also, I don't even see why people play as Pichu over Pickachu in the first place. He's weaker, hurts himself, and about the same speed.(Oops sorry about the double post! :urg: )
Vulpine51
05-22-2006, 09:30 PM
hey, as long as they keep Fox, im happy.
Shadow Calibur
05-22-2006, 09:47 PM
I dunno whether to be happy, sad, or confused, because I CANNOT clearly understand a single word in that message.
All 26 may be carried on to Brawl, or some may be cut short. A bit early to tell for sure.
They'll probably just change their looks.
Antioch
05-22-2006, 09:47 PM
if it HAS to be one character, it has to be pichu.
i hate to say it.
i love the little guy as much as anyone else, but he doesn't add too much variety as where a new character would satisfy a lot more players. ;\\\
Sixwinter-Kubata
05-22-2006, 10:02 PM
There is no evidence in that failure of a message that depicts any of the original 26 being cut. From what I could interpret, it assures quite the opposite, that it would hurt the customer to cut any 26. It says that new characters are limited even though the staff is larger.
Cashed
05-22-2006, 10:10 PM
What I gathered from the rough translation is that staff size is small and recoding all the characters takes time. If staff size doesn't increase, we might not see all 26 characters return.
Bloshi
05-22-2006, 10:14 PM
If they were to cut any, it would be non-popular characters not many people have heard about/like alot before Melee. Falco and Pichu fall into this category. Same thing with Roy and Marth. Maybe even Dr. Mario. No liked Falco in the starfox games (except maybe masocists :psycho: ) and no one cares that much about Pichu outside of Melee. Ganon will definitely stay because even though he's a clone in Melee, he is widely known and a very good idea to put in SSB. I believe that Nintendo wants to only put in people's most favorite characters that are not favorite merely because they are liked in melee.
Zodiak-Lucien
05-22-2006, 10:15 PM
I thought they had a large staff for this game.
Khanczar
05-22-2006, 10:18 PM
Secret characters. Ever heard of em?
GAmer1991
05-22-2006, 10:26 PM
.....you've got to be kidding me.
@zodiak-lucien: they do, about 60? But I guess that's not enough for a game of smash's calibre?
I have to agree with Marsh. I wouldn't mind seeing Pichu and Dr. Mario be replaced. I honestly can't imagine why someone would want to play as a self-damaging character instead of just picking up Pikachu. He's stronger and can still run circles around 20 out of the 26 characters in the game (excludes: Fox, Falco, C.Falcon, Marth, Pichu, and well, himself). When I did have access to my 'Cube, I didn't see enough of Sheik for me to make a solid comparison, but go with me on this.
Dr. Mario distinguishes himself the least out of the 5 copy characters, so I could stand to see him go, although I would miss the black doctor gear. Maybe they could make it an unlockable alternate outfit for Mario.
Ganondorf I like having around, since I personally enjoy playing the bad guy (at least in terms of fantasy things), and I just like having the the villain element and what they bring to the table. I would be upset if he were eliminated.
Falco I can tolerate having despite him being a Fox copy, only because his character has a distinct personality.
Noypi_GjD
05-22-2006, 10:32 PM
]If they were to cut any, it would be non-popular characters not many people have heard about/like alot before Melee.[/B] Falco and Pichu fall into this category. Same thing with Roy and Marth. .
That doesn't make sense because Melee introduced a bunch of characters to people. That would possibly mean no: Ice Climbers, Ness, Game and Watch, Marth, Roy >.> And I doubt they would be cut. Hopefully, most of the old characters return for SSBB, if any cuts... I wouldn't really miss Pichu much.
TrainerAbu
05-22-2006, 10:32 PM
SamuraiPanda on GameFAQs gave a real translation of it.
The passage I am translating can be found in the gray box at the bottom of this page: http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/bn/no8.html
In order to prove you naysayers wrong, here is a full, nearly exact, translation of what he said. My own personal commentary is provided in the [ ].
DISCLAIMER: Sakurai uses very ambiguous language in his response. I didn’t try too hard to recreate the ambiguity in English, so try not to nitpick the English in this passage too much.
"Sorry. I'm not very smart but I can't tell a lie so I'm just going to write it.
As for the previous game's characters, some of them will disappear. Definitely.
For the last game, we struggled to assemble 26 characters. We tried really hard and unintentionally reached that number.
But, although you'll see characters from the last game, this time, on a significant scale [Yes, this is exact], they will be remade. It is this sort of thing [This sentence is slang, so there really isn't a good English translation for it].
For argument's sake, no matter how much staff there is, with just manpower we can’t just put in everything, and as my own job [read: workload] does not decrease, there is a limit.
But, the consumer’s desired things to be included [There really isn’t a good English equivalent for that word] are weeeeell understood. You will be [he doesn’t give a subject to the sentence, so I’m using ‘you’] happy regarding the adapted characters moving around on different stages as well [The email he is responding to complained about how there are only 3 ‘fair’ stages in SSBM].
So, we will once again struggle to create characters. I cannot promise you anything other than that.”
If Sakurai's response is a bit too hard for you guys to understand without the context in which he wrote it, I MIGHT translate the email he responded to if you really want me to.
McFox
05-22-2006, 10:49 PM
SamuraiPanda came here and posted about it. Use that topic, it's much more informative.
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