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The Burrito of Time
05-23-2006, 01:23 AM
Just wondering if anyone had any good ideas on how to improve Link.

crazyhoward
05-23-2006, 01:25 AM
link is already good

ScaryMunky
05-23-2006, 01:28 AM
Being able to change the angle of the boomerang like Y.Link can would be nice, as would an increase in his running speed, and giving his bombs the effect that Y.Link's have.

Squatdog7
05-23-2006, 01:29 AM
If they are getting rid of young link giving link the fire arrows when fully charged would be nice.

ScaryMunky
05-23-2006, 01:34 AM
If they are getting rid of young link giving link the fire arrows when fully charged would be nice.
Why not light arrows? :)

DiXy
05-23-2006, 01:44 AM
Pit has the light arrows!

Shark X
05-23-2006, 04:14 AM
The Boomerangs seem pretty useless. They would just ditched those, and add another weapons, like maybe the Megaton Hammer or Hook Shot (instead of grabbing, it should fling the enemy to you so you can smash attack them in midair while they are helpless).

Ippius
05-23-2006, 04:17 AM
He has a sword, arrows, a boomerang, bombs, hookshot and a shield (that has limited but sometimes useful protection). I dont see that he needs any improvement but I think nintendo will make him able to transform into a wolf or something like that becuase of Twilight Princess.

xianfeng
05-23-2006, 04:19 AM
Just wondering if anyone had any good ideas on how to improve Link.
don't fix what isn't broken

The GERM
05-23-2006, 05:42 AM
only 2 things he needs.

1. Give him Y. Link's running speed
2. Give him Y. Link's wavedash

bam, unstoppable.

xianfeng
05-23-2006, 05:57 AM
only 2 things he needs.

1. Give him Y. Link's running speed
2. Give him Y. Link's wavedash

bam, unstoppable.
then he's unfair and needs lots of lag

The GERM
05-23-2006, 06:15 AM
then he's unfair and needs lots of lag

hahahaha, are you serious? do you honestly think Link is "broken"? Nobody has ever won a big pro tournament with Link, do you know why? because when it comes down to it, he get his a** handed to him by high tier characters like Fox, Sheik, and Falco simply because the mofo is just tooooo slow to keep up. To do good with Link you really have to play smart and stay on your toes and make sure to not fu** up. Increasing his speed to Y. Links and giving him his wavedash would still not make Link top tier, maybe low upper, but it would just make it easier to keep up with the likes of Fox, Falcon, and the others that run circles around him. I'm not saying to give Link the attack speed of Y. Link, that would be too good. I'm just saying, it would be nice if they keep Link's slow a** smashes and tilts, but just make him a little faster and more maneuverable.

Ippius
05-23-2006, 06:29 AM
I'm not saying to give Link the attack speed of Y. Link, that would be too good. I'm just saying, it would be nice if they keep Link's slow a** smashes and tilts, but just make him a little faster and more maneuverable.
Link has very powerful smahses allbeit slow. His speed lets him down a lot. Keep the smashes. Slightly improve his speed. I fthey increase his speed too much though...

Zareidriel
05-23-2006, 11:44 AM
Keep what he has. His speed is fine. Just cut some of the lag...both start lag and end lag, but especially end lag.

RuleBritannia
05-23-2006, 12:04 PM
Being able to change the angle of the boomerang like Y.Link can would be nice, as would an increase in his running speed, and giving his bombs the effect that Y.Link's have.
Link can change the angle of his boomerang!

Aiser
05-23-2006, 12:31 PM
They better keep his boomerang =|

I for one would love for link to have y.links running speed and wavedash I'm actually fine with his laggy moves infact I perfer it, its just his god **** running speed =[

GREAT-ONE
05-23-2006, 02:17 PM
It would be cool if Link ran even faster than C.Falcon. That would be gansta!!!!

Resting_Fox
05-23-2006, 02:28 PM
Link can change the angle of his boomerang!

Young Link's boomerang can be altered to a greater degree than Links. That's what he was talking about.

Takalth
05-23-2006, 02:28 PM
don't fix what isn't broken

I've always hated that philosophy. The NES wasn't broken, so why did we need a SNES and everything that came after. Improvement is ALWAYS welcome with me.

Now, regarding link, how's this. Press down+B when you already have a bomb, and he'll switch it for a time-based bomb (doesn't explode on impact, always takes the full time). Then, make it so that if he hits it with an arrow and/or boomerang, it explodes much larger and more powerful than a normal bomb. That could open up new and interesting tactics.

Another thought would be to make the smash Forward B launch the magic boomerang (oracle of seasons, possibly other zelda games, as I haven't played them all), which could be controlled somewhat like ness's PK thunder.

Regardless of whether that suggestion is followed, I think there is a lot of room in this game for cool tricks or stacking what a move is capable of (think of Samus, who can fire two variations on her missile). I will actually be quite disappointed if all we see with the 25 melee characters is slight adjustments in speed/damage. I want to see new tactics and techniques opened up.

WR3K
05-23-2006, 02:37 PM
his boomaraong could have a small tornadoe(sp?) look to it, because in TP, his gale boomerang creates a small tornadoe.

he has too much lag right now, link, one of the most favored nintendo charcaters? he should atleast be able to compete in tournements fairly

Plomid
05-23-2006, 02:40 PM
only 2 things he needs.

1. Give him Y. Link's running speed
2. Give him Y. Link's wavedash

bam, unstoppable.
and so would you be too

Link-NY
05-23-2006, 02:57 PM
yea i have good suggestions to fix on link...Give him better KO power... God i ****ing HATE it how is main KO moves are D-air,first slash on the f-smash,and spin attack...If u miss any of these moves ur likely to be severly punished for it..And his up smash... it should be able to suck ppl in just like mewtwos upsmash or g-dorfs and a bit more knockback also... i think it should be jump cancleable just like fox/falco's shine i alrdy like his wavedash and everything else i think its perfect for him..i also think they should add to him THE MIRROR SHIELD! from the past zelda games that way when he stands still anything thrown at him gets reflected back...

The_Smash_Champ
05-23-2006, 03:09 PM
Link could be improved a lot, first of all let us have a variaty of arrows, for maybe like certain things like you can change betwen Normal-Ice-Fire- and light arrows. The boomerang could be the gale boomerang from TP. Maybe a longer Hookshot, and it would be nice to something diffrent. Like maybe when your falling and you use your hookshot, if you hit someone you can still hang to them or something, im just throwing out ideas. :lick:

amnesiac
05-23-2006, 03:18 PM
too much glamour going on here =/

D.A.
05-23-2006, 07:25 PM
It would be cool if Link ran even faster than C.Falcon. That would be gansta!!!!
No, that simply wouldn't make sense.

I think Link should just run faster, nothing more. He takes time to get good with, but I don't really think he needs any dramatic changes to make him incredibly easy to use.

8000
05-23-2006, 07:29 PM
The Boomerangs seem pretty useless.

ARE YOU ****ING INSANE!!!???

The boomerang is one of Link's greatest attacks. It opens combos, closes combos, stuns long enough to escape, stops projectiles...The boomerang is Link's best projectile...(I say this in offensive use)

Why not the bomb?

Because the bomb can be caught and is more easily blockable than the boomerang.

D.A.
05-23-2006, 07:31 PM
ARE YOU ****ING INSANE!!!???

The boomerang is one of Link's greatest attacks. It opens combos, closes combos, stuns long enough to escape, stops projectiles...The boomerang is Link's best projectile...(I say this in offensive use)

Why not the bomb?

Because the bomb can be caught and is more easily blockable than the boomerang.
I agree with this outlook greatly. Nintendo probably wouldn't want to change any of these moves because they are very classic, but if anything has to go, I would rather drop the bomb for something different than the boomerang. Then again, what about arrows?

Aeris
05-23-2006, 11:00 PM
I'm surprised Gale Boomerang wasn't mentioned on the first page. That, to me, seems like the most obvious change. I would imagine that it would remain very similar to his current boomerang, except with tornado capabilities akin to the whirlwinds that appeared in Hyrule Castle 64. Obviously, they wouldn't move back and forth like the originals, but something to think about anyhow.

McFox
05-23-2006, 11:23 PM
What if, instead of vB being the bombs (or Wolf Link), it slapped on his metal boots? It would instantly make Link a lot heavier, which would completely change up strategies mid-games.

Of course it won't happen, but it's cool to think about.

Obviously, it would be near-impossible to recover wearing the boots, so you'd have to take them off before you got smacked. :P

LeonVII
05-24-2006, 08:17 PM
only 2 things he needs.

1. Give him Y. Link's running speed
2. Give him Y. Link's wavedash

bam, unstoppable.

Link is one of the sorriest characters in the game. Giving him those things won't make him unstoppable, just more appealing to rookies.

Link-NY
05-24-2006, 08:24 PM
Link is one of the sorriest characters in the game. Giving him those things won't make him unstoppable, just more appealing to rookies.
LMFAO!!!! who the **** is this? Money match me ur main vs my Link :D:D

Baron_54
05-24-2006, 08:26 PM
I don't know, It just seems impossible for Nitendo not to add Wolf Link. That'll change the way Link's played a lot.

The_Smash_Champ
05-24-2006, 09:14 PM
I don't know, It just seems impossible for Nitendo not to add Wolf Link. That'll change the way Link's played a lot.
It also seems impossible they added snake. I would guess that his moves are going too pretty much stay the same with a couple of changes every here and there and with an added super attack he does.

The GERM
05-24-2006, 11:02 PM
Link is one of the sorriest characters in the game. Giving him those things won't make him unstoppable, just more appealing to rookies.

You're an idiot, no johnz.

jpwalker123
05-24-2006, 11:53 PM
I already find Link to be one of the best characters but he could still be better. If they made him with less lag time and made him faster, this would drastically help him and this would make him the best character and many more would see that after these changes.

dmbrandon
05-25-2006, 02:14 AM
The Boomerangs seem pretty useless. They would just ditched those, and add another weapons, like maybe the Megaton Hammer or Hook Shot (instead of grabbing, it should fling the enemy to you so you can smash attack them in midair while they are helpless).

I read this, and was in awe,, until I read your sig:

SSBB WISHLIST in order: Sonic the Hedgehog, MegaMan, Bass, Geno, Zero, Knuckles the Echidna, Wolf O'Donnell, Bomberman, Krystal (Star Fox Adventures version), Vaati, Alucard, Simon Belmont, Pac-Man, Toad, and Dixie Kong.

Now it makes sense.

commonyoshi
05-25-2006, 02:22 AM
I don't know, It just seems impossible for Nitendo not to add Wolf Link. That'll change the way Link's played a lot.
Because people like Link the way he is now. And they aren't going to add a character they've only know about for a couple of months. They probably have only a little more info on him than we do.

dmbrandon
05-25-2006, 02:24 AM
And they aren't going to add a character they've only know about for a couple of months. They probably have only a little more info on him than we do.


Dumb!

Fact: Most of the audience went 'huh?' to Marth/Roy, however Marth is one of the most commonly used characters.

Not to mention he's from s astrategy game

Wolf Link, I'd say, has a good chance.

HyperFalcon
05-25-2006, 02:26 AM
Link was the sorriest character in the first smash. They made him excellent in Melee. My only changes would be to slightly improve his running speed, and make his ground Spin Attack with LESS knockback. Other than that, he's a deadly character in his own right. Definately not top tier, but much better than his old one. Given the choice, his Melee version was perfectly fine compared to his sorry SSB64 variation. As for Wolf Link, that goes under a maybe. We don't want too many transforming characters, now do we? The Zelda/Sheik thing already surprised many people and opened up a huge ammount of strategies and mind games. Link was known for his huge arsenal, not his many somewhat many forms. I don't want Wolf Link in the game(unless he truly kicks the arse in TP)

Other than that, maybe a Wall Jump for him? This would be a fair thing to do considering his recovery isn't exactly great. I like the Time Bombs and Iron Boots idea, but they seem a little too wierd for this kind of game. I could see the Iron Boots as an item(as they do make Link heavier than Metal Mario...surprisingly so) that can improve throw priority and make the current user unthrowable(thus, to even the idea of being so heavy it hurts to recover) But those are just ideas.

commonyoshi
05-25-2006, 02:38 AM
Dumb!

Fact: Most of the audience went 'huh?' to Marth/Roy, however Marth is one of the most commonly used characters.

Not to mention he's from s astrategy game

Wolf Link, I'd say, has a good chance.
What are you talking about? Marth's moves can be imagined by the developers because the game was out and everything. Wolf Link... what if they imagine a move set and create the character but then it doesn't fit with the real one on TP? It would be weird.