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blackninjaforevr
05-23-2006, 09:36 AM
My friend believes there will be downloadable characters, but since this is a very early stage of nintendo wifi and wii, I do not believe this to be true, but I want it to be.
Do you think there will be downloadable content such as characters/stages/item, or just plain patches to balance out the game?
On second thought do you even want it to happen?
RAMRAM
05-23-2006, 10:25 AM
I can see where downloading characters/stages/items would be interesting, but...
For some reason, I just can't see SSBB getting into that sort of thing, I don't know why.
It certainly could happen, but it just doesn't look right, y'know what I mean?
I think the possibility to download patches for fixing up bugs or overpowered moves would be great.
GHOSTKING
05-23-2006, 10:33 AM
I can see where downloading characters/stages/items would be interesting, but...
For some reason, I just can't see SSBB getting into that sort of thing, I don't know why.
It certainly could happen, but it just doesn't look right, y'know what I mean?
No I dont know what you mean.....I believe their will be downloadable characters and other goodies in SSBB, availible through wifi. Remember that nintendo is trying to make a gaming system revolution and make everyone play, why would Nintendo not have downloadable goodies when X-box already has it......My point is that Nintendo wouldnt get left behind in that trend, IMO they will have downloadables through wifi..........
How can you not see them having it? IMO that was an odd statement. :chuckle:
crazyhoward
05-23-2006, 01:02 PM
I don't know if they will but they should that way they can take out characters and then put them in later. it solves the problem of not having enough time. And then they could keep asking what characters people want in the game after the game has released.
RAMRAM
05-23-2006, 02:06 PM
Although Nintendo isn't one for following trends, more for setting them, I guess it would be a good addition.
I just know some of the problems that it can cause throughout.
Inferno_blaze
05-23-2006, 02:10 PM
it would be nice but would screw alot of things up, people without wireless or having their revo -sorry "wii"- connected to the internet would have no idea what ohers are talking about when they talk about new characters as well as having to make a hell of alot more balance work and you'd end up with probably far too many characters.
nealdt
05-23-2006, 02:40 PM
I seriously doubt it, because there's no money in it. This game is going to sell an enormous number of units whether or not they promise downloadable content. So why would they promise extra development time post-launch, when the product of that work wouldn't bring the company any extra money?
I don't know if they will but they should that way they can take out characters and then put them in later. it solves the problem of not having enough time. And then they could keep asking what characters people want in the game after the game has released.
If they don't have enough time, then push the game back. Sure it'd piss people off, But would you rather have it late or messed up.
IMO There should be no downloadable information at all. The game should be released 100%finished. Wifi should just be a 'play-over-the-internet' thing, not a patch job.
Resting_Fox
05-23-2006, 03:20 PM
I seriously doubt it, because there's no money in it. This game is going to sell an enormous number of units whether or not they promise downloadable content. So why would they promise extra development time post-launch, when the product of that work wouldn't bring the company any extra money?
Most of the time people pay money for Expansion packs that they download. Whether they pay electronically or go to the store and buy a keycard doesn't matter. Nintendo would still make money off of downloadable content.
And My reason for believing that they will have downloadable content is Sakurai's founding of Smashlabs. He could have just as esily gotten the same team from HAL. But opening a whole new studio makes it seem like the project is more than a temp-job. then again it might just be his way of letting Nintendo know he's still independent and they haven't bought him back.
Nintendo could easily make money just charging 99 cents per new character, if you think about it. So, there really is no money issue here.
Do I think Nintendo will do it? No. I just have my doubts and insecurities. :S
ChRed2AKrisp
05-23-2006, 03:35 PM
I doubt they'll have downloadable characters.
However I think they will have downloadable items and a couple downloadable stages.
Unless its free updates, people aren't going to want to have to pay from something as big in the game as an entire character. Items though, not everyone uses so its not that big a deal if you don't have some, and unless the stage becomes tourney viable or incredibly fun, it won't be that big a deal to miss a couple. I wouldn't mind if they made a couple characters later on and made them free updates, but deliberately withholding charachters in order to get some extra money would be like withholding a significant portion and RPG and saying "If you want to finish, you need to pay more".
Downloadable patches could be nice, though in some cases that might be a problem. Unless its for patches in terms of glitches, doig things like having a patch that made it so, for example, that in SSBM falco's spike and Marth's spike changed to the PAL version, as well as Sheik's grab. THat doesn't seem major but suddenly spiking Marth's in the US would find the opponent recoverig, and Falco would think he'd sent the character to oblivion, when in fact they've been dealt a little damage and are now edge guarding you. People who played these characters would suddenly find their character's moveset would be thrown off, and everyone who played as them would been thrown off of the game for a bit, possibly longer. People who had played as the char. a long time would take a while to readjust.
summary: Character downloads will not be paid, or just won't happen. There will probably be a couple stage downloads and some item for a price. THere will be patches for bugs and glitches, not to change the gameplay. If there are, no one will download them. That would also cause a probem for online unless the patch is automatically dled, with people playing each other with different versions.
McFox
05-23-2006, 03:45 PM
Well, I can't connect to Nintendo Wi-Fi, so I'm opposed to this.
The Cape
05-23-2006, 03:50 PM
Well Halo 2 was released then hopefully patched to fix it. BIG TIME HORRIBLE MISTAKE!
Also, if this game had patches to make the game more balanced and such, that would take the fun out of it, the unbalance is what makes this game fun.
Think about it, when you beat a Sheik with Link in tournament, how great does that feel?
The_Smash_Champ
05-23-2006, 03:56 PM
Its hard to imagine this, It would be awesome and all but it would seriously take out a lot of the fun. What i could see is maybe stages you could buy, like in Halo, that would work i guess...
GenoBlast
05-23-2006, 04:39 PM
I actually dont think this is a good idea. I'm all for downloadable stages, but characters? I dont think it will work out to well.
I just feel as if they get to the point where they are "downloadable" They will have no depth to them at all. Every character in ssbm plays completely differnt from one another, even the clones.
I could be wrong about this. After all, its just a theory. But if they make character downloadable I'm thinking we'll be looking at something like 100 characters some of which will be so similar to others, that the only differnce is their appearance.
My friend believes there will be downloadable characters, but since this is a very early stage of nintendo wifi and wii, I do not believe this to be true, but I want it to be.
Do you think there will be downloadable content such as characters/stages/item, or just plain patches to balance out the game?
On second thought do you even want it to happen?
Well Nintendo's Wii Connect 24 program means if you have online access you're Wii will be online all the time. Nintendo hinted that this would be for purposes so they could update you're games or you could get messages from friends even while you're asleep as long as the system is on standby. I think downloadable characters is not out of the question, but I think we'd most likely get items or stages first because the game will most likely get jam packed with characters and downloading more won't leave too much room for the fourth game.
Kriegsseele
05-23-2006, 04:45 PM
Nah, I don't think this is going to happen. There are some important things against it.
1. What about the people who don't have Internet? They won't get the new characters / stages? That'd be a bit discriminating in my opinion.
2. From what I know about such things, downloading Characters or Stages will use LOTS, and I mean LOTS of free space on the Wii / Memory cards.
I can't explain it in english lol, but I don't think it's possible to play a game with a CD and download a character / stage which is not on the CD. They'd have to be clones then.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I played some Online Games, but I'm not a "pro" so I don't know if it's possible to do that.
While I have no idea whether or not nintendo would ever try to make downloadable characters, I dont know if I like the idea at all.
New characters/items/levels would be pretty cool, but I dread the thought of patches, cause that opens up a huge debate over which version should be allowed in tournaments. for example, if they patched peach's downsmash, suddenly you would have people refusing to update because they main peach and like it how it is.
I would much prefer a finalized version that we can all enjoy. Hopefully significantly more than 26 characters, with enough wacky items and levels for the four player ffa types, and a good number of levels for tournament use. I have faith that they will balance the game out at least as much as they did with melee, so I'd rather let the community decide whats in for tourneys and the like rather than have them come out with patches.
I dunno, thats just how I feel.
Marshy
05-23-2006, 07:25 PM
Like someone before me said, if they keep adding characters then who's going to be in SSB4?(You kno there will be one since it's one of Nintendo's best-selling games) but I'm all for stages and even items.
Nah, I don't think this is going to happen. There are some important things against it.
1. What about the people who don't have Internet? They won't get the new characters / stages? That'd be a bit discriminating in my opinion.
2. From what I know about such things, downloading Characters or Stages will use LOTS, and I mean LOTS of free space on the Wii / Memory cards.
I can't explain it in english lol, but I don't think it's possible to play a game with a CD and download a character / stage which is not on the CD. They'd have to be clones then.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I played some Online Games, but I'm not a "pro" so I don't know if it's possible to do that.
1. People who have no internet can't play MMOs. Would you qualify that as discrimination? (I don't mean this to be..uhm..mean. o.o; )
2. If the maps use existing graphics, 50 megs tops. If the maps use new graphics, possibly 120 megs. However, this is pure guestimation, based on how large SSBM was (disc space wise), and doing some head calculations....along with averaging how big map downloads are for other games. Also, the console could read off the hard drive (I have no idea if the Wii has one of those) and the CD at once. Hell, if the Wii loads everything off the CD that is possible to happen during the battle, it won't even need to read the CD...but that would probably kill the RAM a little excessively.
primusfan
05-23-2006, 07:30 PM
It wouldnt be a bad idea if it wasnt for one thing...viruses. No viruses on my WIIIIIIII!
maathimself
05-23-2006, 07:57 PM
To the best of my knowlage, no fighting game has ever had downloadable characters. I'm not even sure if any fighter has ever had any downloadable content. I think that creating and balancing a brand new character after the game is released is just too much work, and there is really no payoff.
McFox
05-23-2006, 08:06 PM
1. People who have no internet can't play MMOs. Would you qualify that as discrimination? (I don't mean this to be..uhm..mean. o.o; )
Um, you do realize that Smash is NOT an MMO, right? It's a fighting game.
Don't count on downloadable stuff. What if you run out of room on your 512 flash drive? Yes, you can download other hardrives, but then you end up with specific characters saved in different places.
It's very unlikely that it'll happen.
SMB PORTAL
05-23-2006, 09:00 PM
Nintendo could easily make money just charging 99 cents per new character, if you think about it. So, there really is no money issue here.
I sort of like the idea though. It gives a cool way to expirience more characters. I could actually see it acrually, you picking the characters you want.
New expansions would be also a good idea as well. I think, since nintendo is diving into online, that they might actually consider it. Since the game will not be released at launch of the Wii, I can imagine that they will unveil more about the game. I actually like the idea.
-SMB
commonyoshi
05-23-2006, 09:03 PM
Well, I can't connect to Nintendo Wi-Fi, so I'm opposed to this.
Agreed. Stupid Yahoo DSL. How I hate thee.
Nah, I don't think this is going to happen. There are some important things against it.
1. What about the people who don't have Internet? They won't get the new characters / stages? That'd be a bit discriminating in my opinion.
2. From what I know about such things, downloading Characters or Stages will use LOTS, and I mean LOTS of free space on the Wii / Memory cards.
I can't explain it in english lol, but I don't think it's possible to play a game with a CD and download a character / stage which is not on the CD. They'd have to be clones then.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I played some Online Games, but I'm not a "pro" so I don't know if it's possible to do that.
About the discriminating thing, Microsoft made maps and additions for Halo 2 downloadable and nobody else could get it. Months later they released it on a disc, it's completely fair.
_the_sandman_
05-23-2006, 09:09 PM
Thats so weird, my friend and I were talking about downloadable characters this morning.....O_O.....
Anyways. It sounds like a good idea, but there may be characters that not everyone could get and that would just be disappointing.
And of course it would lead everyone into talking about "creating their own characters" because you could download patches. Character creation is something that will never happen. But people will keep begging for it if theres downloads and we'll never hear the end to it.
RVD_fan
05-23-2006, 10:21 PM
One of my favorite things about the SSB series is how it's still fun no matter how outdated it is. I think you should use that time and effort on something else.
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