Why can't my ICs shorthop!?

[Mushroom Pie]

I don't know what it is, I can shorthop fine with other characters, but I can only manage it with the ICs through fluke alone. I sat down for a half hour today and just jumped over and over again with them to try and shorthop consistently, and it just doesn't happen. Anyone have a clue as to what could be wrong?

[nealdt]

You aren't fast enough. There is no other explanation. Just keep practicing.

(FYI, the ICs have the hardest SH in the game, along with 6 other characters (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=651183#post651183))

[Mushroom Pie]

Fair enough. Back to practicing I s'pose.

3 frames? O_o This may take a while.

[Ice X]

If you can master the timing of the SH and combine it with a bair(back aerial) then that will be a really good move in gameplay if executed right.

[uberdabing]

Flick the y button with your thumbnail. Don't actually press the button fully with your finger. That's what I use and it almost always shorthops when I want it to.

[Pneuma]

I was taught to kinda flick the bottom of X and hit the C-stick in the direction you need (though makes uairs ungodly hard and dairs easy as hell). At least the short hops are consistant. =P

[FFrost]

its better to just learn it by practicing the regular way, flicking the buttons with your thumb nails isnt going to be that great when your fingers are flying all over the controller pressing different buttons.

[Mushroom Pie]

Yeah, I'm not too concerned with getting SHFFL down, I'm pretty sure I can manage that easily enough if I can just shorthop consistantly. I'll just keep workin' at it.

[Black Luigi]

Flicking the button works terribly for me. I mean, I can short hop with it nicely, but it really throws off my positioning and makes me feel awkward. I've said this before, but if flicking doesn't suit you either, try just pressing half the button. I use the x button to jump and when I want to short hop I pretty much just press the top half of the button.

[deivit]

I'm used to jump with the stick, so SH is really hard for me. What I found more reliable is to flick the x button, I put my finger next to the button (in the right side like almost touching it) then I move it fast aiming for the c-stick.
Touching half of the button wasn't good for me, especially in the tension of a game.

[HMWii22]

**** m2k and his stats. If Fox, ICs, Sheik and Samus all have the same timing for their SHs, why can I SH perfectly with Fox and ICs and I find it extremely sketchy and awkward to do with Sheik and Samus? Probably because their shorthops are next to useless eh?

[Hozart]

I noticed that a lot of the new threads on the Ice Climber's forum seem to only require telling the creator one thing: Keep practicing. You say you've practiced it for half and hour and still no results? Then practice it for an hour. Maybe two hours. Maybe four. Watch your fingers as you press the buttons, think about the combination, concentrate, take note of when the technique works and try to repeat the exact motion. There's usually no easy way out.

[emubreath]

flicking the button with your hand is just n00b(no offense) you won't be able to play too quickly. just learn to short hop with ICs by starting with like bowser, then dorf, then falco, until your finger gets fasters. I can short hop easily with ICs. There's no need to flick

[khking]

I agree with emubreath. I can shorthop consistently and the way i did it was by shorthopping with other chars. Other than that practice on your timing.

[mcc]

i can short hop like 1/2 of the time. i need more practice :(