King Dedede

[the grim lizard]

Yeah, I can't believe people didn't know about KJ. Anyway, I thought the same thing. Dedede is basically confirmed (not that there were doubts), now. They spent that much time on one of the minions; Dedede will be in. This update at least says that Sakurai is starting to show he cares about his own series for Brawl, which basically does mean D3 will be in because that was the only reason he was out before. Today'd upate was awesome. KJ > Deoxys

[Chickenboy666]

Yep, today's update was awesome, KJ rulz!!! and I think it's a hint of the inclusion of King Dedede too

[Jackal478]

DeDeDe deserves a spot in the franchise.

He'd add to the Heavy sets.

Hope he's in.

[colbusman]

that's what i thought too grim. sakurai is not afraid of showing his own franchise anymore. i mean we saw it when metaknight was confirmed, but this is icing on the cake. he's going all out for his loved franchise

[Pieman0920]

While I wouldn't go so far as to say Dedede is nearly confirmed, KJ is still a positive sign.

Still, I'd rather have a AT like Kracko, or another well known boss. Actually, I wouldn't mind it if Dedede summoned Kracko as a Final Smash. :O

[Brawlmatt202]

While I wouldn't go so far as to say Dedede is nearly confirmed, KJ is still a positive sign.

Still, I'd rather have a AT like Kracko, or another well known boss. Actually, I wouldn't mind it if Dedede summoned Kracko as a Final Smash. :O
What WOULD King Dedede's finaly smash be? I really can't think of a good one... I mean, one that fits him, that is.

[the grim lizard]

Eaode and I had one. >_<

[Pieman0920]

I say he should get the star rod, and be controlled the same way Kirby is in the first part of his final fight from Kirby's Adventure.

[Brawlman]

I say for his Final Smash, he gets possesed by Dark Matter and goes on an uncontrolable rampage. (Think Hammer+Starman...Times 2)

[the grim lizard]

I like the star rod...it makes the most sense for him. Plus, there are already several of us in agreement about it.

[silver777]

"BUMP"

the star rod is very possible.

yet i think he'll slam his hammer on the ground sending stars all over the place having massive knock back.

[the grim lizard]

Man, this thread drops like a rock.

Yeah, I think Dedede's hammer will have a lot of attacks where stars shoot out because that's he always does in the boss battles.

I wonder if he will have his castle as a stage. It seems like it would be weird though, because...you could have the FE castle stage, Hyrule Castle, Peach's Castle, possibly Bowser's castle and Ganondorf's Tower/Castle...and then a Dedede Castle?? Seems like a lot. I think they'll just make a FoD stage for him.

[silver777]

the fountain of dreams stage AND music is HIS themes in the games.

they will stay as these, i believe.

[ClarkJables]

i want him to do some belly slides and ill be happy

[the grim lizard]

He will. have you seen my moveset for him, CJ? Anyway...D3's castle is actually built upon the FoD anyway...

[ClarkJables]

wasn't yours the one where for his upB he would bounce around the stage. if thats the moveset im thinking of then yes, perfect moveset for him. you should also quote that moveset back up here like i did in bomberman thread

[Gypsy Lee]

What if his Final Smash was a massive inhale that sucked everyone in and shot them out a million miles an hour? LOl.

The star rod just doesn't seem right because (although it suits him) it's already an item, and he already has a hammer in his hand when he does it. Does he get rid of his hammer? Does he DUAL WIELD? Or does it magically disappear and then reappear when he's finished?

[ClarkJables]

i like that idea for final smash

[the grim lizard]

Dual wield or replacement. Either way, the star rod will shoot gigantic warp stars out of it. In my description, it says they are as small as Bowser, and as big as GigaBowser...I wouldn't mind that for a final. :p

[ClarkJables]

repost the moveset already grim lizard

[the grim lizard]

Sorry...will do.

I'm not sure what the bouncing up-B one was, but here's mine:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/newcomer.jpg

STATISTICS
(I'll just use Eaode's stats because they're pretty good.)

Jump: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/3-star.jpg

Size: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/4-star.jpg

Weight: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/4-star.jpg

Speed/Agility: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/3-star.jpg

Strength: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/4-star.jpg

Recovery: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/4-star.jpg

Fall Speed: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/2-star.jpg

Ability to Combo: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/3-star.jpg

Ability to KO: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/3-star.jpg


King Dedede will have two midair jumps (for three total). His jump can be held down and he will become inflated. At this point, he will become similar to Peach's float, but it will act more like Mario's cape in Super Mario World. He can bob up and down, and the player can control the movement with the control stick.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/float.jpg

He will slowly descend more and more; so you can't do this for a long period of time. Although, you're basically guaranteed to recover if you're horizontally above the stage when you're knocked off. He can bounce if he touches the ground or a character. He can get out of the float by doing another attack, being attacked by another player, or by letting go of the jump button. After doing the float, D3 has no more jumps, regardless of what jump he began with.



WEAK ATTACKS

Neutral A Combo

Description:
Triple D alternates between slapping the opponent with one fin and swinging his mallet with the other hand.

Forward Tilt

Description:
D3 will push his mallet out like a pool cue to keep the opponent at bay. It will briefly stun the opponent; so it could possibly be followed up by a dash attack or a dash grab. Less affective at low percentages.

Up Tilt

Description:
D3 swings his hammer around his head continuously in a propeller-like fashion (looks like he's swinging a sling) as long as A is held down. Wind-down time is slow, and he is very open to attack from the sides.

Down Tilt

Description:
While crouched, D3 will swing his mallet back-handed in an arc shape, almost like he's doing the Breast Stroke, only with a hammer. (This is basically exactly like Ice Climbers' dtilt.)

Dash Attack

Description:
This will be Dedede's classic run and lunge. He will be running and during the attack will fall on his face and slide a good distance. The attack will strike the opponent during the first half of the animation, and the animation sort of looks like Captain Falcon's >b when he misses the opponent. D3's dash attack is actually a useful dash attack, unlike most character's.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/lunge.jpg



STRONG ATTACKS

Forward Smash

Description:
This move comes straight from Kirby 64 (one time D3 is actually playable). As this attack is charged, D3 will hold his mallet behind him and wind up like he does in Kirby 64. Then, he will release a powerful hammer slam with a star shooting out. There is a lot of downtime for this attack; so there is a tradeoff . It would be a finishing move, and could not be followed up with combos. The beginning of this move is very different, but the final part of the attack is very similar to Ice Climbers' fsmash.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/malletslam.jpg

Up Smash

Description:
Triple D holds his hammer straight up and some small stars come out. The star animation/damage is similar to Zelda's utilt. This attack is good for juggling and starting combos as it will make opponents fall at an angle within reach of Dedede. The animation of the mallet will be similar looking to IC's utilt.

Down Smash

Description:
D3 does a very quick hammer slam in front of him; he then immediately strikes behind him going directly back with his mallet. The front strike to back strike is very smooth and very quick. This can be repeated to make a very affective fast attack. Doing this would be similar to DK's vB attack. This is a modified version of the attack below, which only attacks in front. Stars could also come out, but they would not occur every time.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/rapidslam-1.jpg

While this picture looks similar to the one above in the fsmash, the animation in Brawl would be very different and the affects would be quite different, like those in the Kirby games.



AERIAL ATTACKS

Neutral Aerial

Description:
D3 spins around once in a 360 with his mallet out. This attack would look similar Kirby's >B in the air, but its affects would be more similar to DK's fair. It can spike if sweet-spotted. Opponents down quickly at a sharp angle (direction depends on the point at which the opponent was hit).

Forward Aerial

Description:
D3 exhales a breath of air at the opponent. This attack has a lot of priority and a lot of knock back but no damage. It would be used to interrupt an oncoming strong attack and can deflect (or veer off) some types of projectiles.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/exhale.jpg

Up Aerial

Description:
D3 points upward and goes upward a very short distance and attacks upward with his beak. This attack is good for juggling, but it doesn't have a lot of power to it.

Down Aerial

Description:
Dedede swings his hammer down in a half moon type arc, much like marth's dair. This move isn't particularly useful for anything. It's best used short-hopped and close to the ground.

Back Aerial

Description:
D3 extends his legs and kicks backwards very similar to what Kirby does.This can be a very good edge guard, but it doesn't knock the opponent back as far. He doesn't "kick" his feet out, though; he just extends them. So, there is no animation after it is pressed. It's almost like a backwards sex kick.



SPECIAL ATTACKS

Neutral B

Name: Inhale

Description:
Yes, Triple D has Kirby's classic move. Why? Because from those games, he also has this ability. He cannot swallow or copy but can only cause damage by shooting the the opponent out as a warp star. This essentially acts as a second grab, much like Bowser's >B. Triple D can decide which side and to some extent the angle that the opponent shoots out. This could possibly be useful for getting an opponent off the edge or for leaving them dazed momentarily for a follow-up attack.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/inhale.jpg

Side B

Name: Mallet-rang

Description:
This attack is much like Captain America's Shield, only a little slower. D3 throws his mallet forward and it spirals at the opponent. The mallet has a completely horizontal trajectory. If it makes a hit, it will return to him, just like a boomerang. If the mallet does not hit the opponent, it will continue to go forward and not return, unlike Link's Boomerang. If this happens, it will take one or two seconds for him to use a mallet attack again, similar to Jiggly's rest downtime, only a little faster.

Up B

Name: Hammer Slam

Description:

Triple D will go up slightly and then down for about 2 seconds or until he hits the ground. He will have his hammer out for attack when he does this. This attack will be similar to Kirby's up-B. When he hits the ground, a star will come out. D3 jumps directly vertically and there is no horizontal movement with this move whatsoever.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/hammerslam.jpg

Down B

Name: Penguin Bomb (that was a good name, Eaode...)

Description:
Yes, two other characters have it, but Dedede needs it, and it will be different. I promise. In any case, Triple D will rise to the air and slam to the ground on his bum. When he lands, two stars come out, one on either side, which also hurt the opponent. The twist here is that while the other two characters simply jump up and come straight down, Triple D has more control over it. It's not quite as quick as these other two, but it mostly goes in an arc shape. The angle and distance can be controlled during the move, much like Yoshi's eggs.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/groundpound.jpg

Don't tell me his specials are too similar...you know he's going to have them!



GRABS

Grab Attack

Description:
D3's grab will not be like Yoshi's. He will simply grab them with his free hand and clobber them on the top of the head with his mallet for his attack.

Forward Throw

Description:
D3 will set the opponent down and hold his mallet sideways. Then, he will swing and follow through like he was teeing off to send them forward.

Up Throw

Description:
This is a simple toss upwards. It's light enough and quick enough to juggle the opponent and to start a combo.

Down Throw

Description:
Dedede will bury the opponent in the dirt with the top of his mallet. They will pop up and fly away; so this isn't particularly useful for anything other than just mixing things up.

Back Throw

Description:
Triple D will lightly toss the opponent back and then follow through hard with his mallet like he's hitting a homerun. This is a great KO move if you're near the edge.



MISC.

Final Smash
Eaode's was good, but I'll modify it slightly

Description:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/starrod.jpg

Dedede will get the Star Rod from Kirby's Adventure. The star at the tip is slightly larger than your average Star Rod. This Rod is a temporary item, and Dedede can shoot giant stars out of it. The stars range in size from Bowser-sized to as big as GigaBowser. Opponents can avoid the stars, but it may be difficult. Damage/Knock back for any star that hits an opponent will be magnified to its size accordingly.

Running

Description:
Dedede will run with his mallet out like so:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/malletrun.jpg

Kirby Hat

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/btlizard/popopo.jpg

Description:
Yes, if Kirby copies Dedede, his ability really will not change much but he cannot copy anyone else. Instead, he gets a sort of upgraded spit attack, which many Kirby fans might find beneficial. At least he is no worse than if he was fighting another Kirby...

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Next order of business: A Dedede stage. (Although, I personally think it'd just be Fountain of Dreams...)

[ClarkJables]

very good moveset, very detailed with lots of pictures

[chansen]

I'm practically 99% positive that D3 will be in Brawl. They added that lame character (Knuckle Joe) and I've never heard or seem him in any of the kirby games i have played. Whereas with D3, he's got the street cred. I'm pretty sure we'll be getting a visit from a certain pissed off penguin this christmas.

watch your *** santa, D3's in town!

[the grim lizard]

KJ was in Kirby Superstar (one of the best Kirby games) and another one that I can't recall off the top of my head. and KJ is awesome, btw...

Wait! 0_o I just thought of something...Dec. 3...King Dedede...D3...Dec. 3...

Sakurai confirmed King Dedede and we didn't even know it!!

[silver777]

KJ was in Kirby Superstar (one of the best Kirby games) and another one that I can't recall off the top of my head. and KJ is awesome, btw...

Wait! 0_o I just thought of something...Dec. 3...King Dedede...D3...Dec. 3...

Sakurai confirmed King Dedede and we didn't even know it!!

O_O

Sakurai is a god:psycho:

[ClarkJables]

*shock and awe*

[chansen]

O_O
Sakurai is a god:psycho:

I wouldnt go that far...but the D3 coincidence is questionable?

[Chickenboy666]

KJ was in Kirby Superstar (one of the best Kirby games) and another one that I can't recall off the top of my head. and KJ is awesome, btw...

Wait! 0_o I just thought of something...Dec. 3...King Dedede...D3...Dec. 3...

Sakurai confirmed King Dedede and we didn't even know it!!

OMG!!! O_O
it really makes sense

[ClarkJables]

sound slike something that should go in the dr mario confirmed thread ....

[Johnknight1]

O_O

Sakurai is a god:psycho:

Correction: Sakurai was possessed by God when he made SSB64, SSB Melee, and probably SSB Brawl. ;)

BTW, the only reasn this thread has little posts in no one is retarted enough to doubt King Dedede. :p Doubting King Dedede is like doubting Luigi's return: RETARTED!!! :laugh: I love saying that! :chuckle:

[chansen]

retarted you say???

I believe only what i can see and what can be confirmed.
I haven't seen any pictures of D3 yet...

[colbusman]

hey i'm glad more people are posting. this thread was nearly dead, then me and grim brought it up, only had 5 pages on it. that was like two weeks ago, so i'm glad this thread is alive again

dedede for brawl

[the grim lizard]

Dedede will be in. Johnknight is right. Anyone who doubts is retarted...The only way he won't be in is if the world explodes and there is no game. Although, none of us will care because we'll all be dead.

[chansen]

ok, I brought up "retarted" because thats definitely not how you spell it, btw.
D3 should be top tier, or god tier.

[the grim lizard]

I realize that's how it's misspelled. It was purposeful. It's supposed to emphasize the insult, but...I guess it didn't work :ohwell:

[MrBird]

Dedede for me.

[ClarkJables]

dedede fo brawl

[Diemonds]

Triple D would be like the combined Ice Climbers

[the grim lizard]

Check the moveset on the previous page. He'd have a lot of differences...

[SmashChu]

ok, I brought up "retarted" because thats definitely not how you spell it, btw.
D3 should be top tier, or Sakurai tier.

Fix'd it..