Quickest way to edgehog.

[ForestSage]

Heyy, Just a quick question.

let's say your on the left side of FD as Falco and you smash the oppenent, say a fox, to the right. The soar through the air then slowly lose mommentum and start to recover. You immediatly chase after them in order to edgeguard them.

My question is: What is the quickest way to get to the edge, turned around and hanging there?

Examples may be:
Run towards ledge, jump, shine, turn, grab ledge.
Run towards ledge and off it, then Falco phantasm to the ledge.
Run towards ledge, full jump as aproaching, reverse blaster(turn and shoot), land on the ledge( or within WDing distance.)

These are just ideas, I was wondering whats the fastest in your opinion. Or is it purely preference? I personally think these would be quite flashy to do while in an attempt to edgehog.

Okay..I'm done.. Thanks in advance.

[phanna]

To rank grabbing the ledge on the other side of FD by speed:

Dash-run over, doing a short-hop to reverse blaster, sliding to ledge grab.
Dash-run over, doing a short-hop to reverse shine, falling to ledge grab.
Dash-run over, doing a fast-fall to reverse phantasm to ledge grab.

A better question is why you are ledge hogging when you can blaster / bair people who are recovering above the level, or dair / dsmash people who are recovering from below the level. Ledge hogging should only be used when they are recovering from a hit that will leave them just at the ledge range, in which case you'll have plenty of time to get over to ledge hog and staling, so it's not really critical which style you choose, simplicity is best. I recommend a good-old fashion waveshine.

[mathos]

Dash-run? isn't falco's shff his fastest horizontal movement (without aerials of course)?

[Fonz]

I thought alternating wavedashes and dashes was his fastest. Then i'd say instant turn in shine (the almost horizontal one) to wavedash on ledge would probably be fastest, although I think sliding off a reverse blaster would have to be close.

[Zanguzen]

lmao i thought i was the only 1 who did full jump reverse blaster 2 edgehog i use it all the time and it seems pretty quick so i suggest that it gets job done lol

[ForestSage]

I wouldn't grab the edge if there cleary not going for it or have no need to, or if there within overshooting range.

I was just saying if there only option is to grab the ledge.

I haven't really got to tryout the different methods first but 'm going to in a few mins.

[NJzFinest]

dashed reversed waveshine

[cu00x19]

From one side of FD to the other, I suggest a dashed shffl+perfect landdash+dashed reverse SHL to (perfect) WD. Possibly a third WD just incase your first one wasn't perfect. I do this alot now...playing lvl 1s on 99 stock does things to you.

[forward]

lmao i thought i was the only 1 who did full jump reverse blaster 2 edgehog i use it all the time and it seems pretty quick so i suggest that it gets job done lol

:laugh: dude you type so funny

[BrTarolg]

you shouldnt be worrying about the fastest way to get on, unless you REALLY are in need for speed.

its more about timing WHEN you get on, to get those invinc frames at the right point.

[bornfidelity.com]

dashed reversed waveshine

YAY

why would you edgehog? because it forces the opp. to get onto the stage. A simple ledgedrop -> rising dair onto the stage or WD onto the stage to dsmash or even those cliche phantasms on stage deal with the lagged opponent from there.

Altho shooting a few lasers while running across FD won't hurt. And it's only slows you down a very tiny bit.

[MrHazuki]

You can also use B-up from the ground to edgehog. It's not great but possible.

[bornfidelity.com]

You can also use B-up from the ground to edgehog. It's not great but possible.

It's cool to use as a spoof. Like, dashing, on the right spot - like on of the white lines/triangle things on FD - use upB while sliding still further because of momentum and grabbing the edge.

its awesomely slow tho :p

[The Hanz]

to me the quickest way to edgegaurd is SH backfilp or a way dash :)