Shine Spike

[Da-Viv1.]

im sorry for this question but I dont understand, it sounds alot like pillaring...how do you Shinespike? I know it involves dair and shine...but the L-cancel seems unecessary because i can do it on my friend without canceling, and theirs very little lag time.

[Dew Rag]

LOL, i feel so bad for you falco players.......

agreed lol

[Sinz]

Waveshine = one character use.

[Da-Viv1.]

then why did someone have responses about waveshining in the falco section?

[teh_spamerer]

Waveshining is wavedashing out of shine...
You jump cancel out of shine, and air dodge the way you would wavedash after jumping.

[Da-Viv1.]

Haha, i just realized i completely typed the wrong thing. I meant to write shine spike...wow. My friend was over and was trying 2 practice that, and i just misread something in one of the posts. Hooray for stupidity! :ohwell:


anyway, edited the title so now can you plz help?

[NJzFinest]

im sorry for this question but I dont understand, it sounds alot like pillaring...how do you Shinespike? I know it involves dair and shine...but the L-cancel seems unecessary because i can do it on my friend without canceling, and theirs very little lag time.
read my SHINE GUIDE
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=1012684#post1012684

here, i'll help you out by quoting it

Shine Spike: When you use the shine as a very quick method of preventing the opponent from getting back to stage. You use the knockback of the shine to hit the opponent away from the stage by doing the shine at a precise time. During a shine spike, the oppenent is knocked back at a fast speed and good distance. It's explained much more in the Fox Shine Guide and not explained at all in the Falco Shine Guide since it's not really a spike for him. Falco has his d-air and his shine cannot spike well since it brings the oppenent up, so, shine spiking with him is somewhat useless.
wow, just wow

[Ryu777]

Fox shine spikes not falco, although I suppose you could hit the opponent with it so that they bounce off of the stage and are sort of spiked

[emcp7]

Maybe you mean shining and then jump-canceling into a spike. Maybe...?

[jamz]

i guess thats falcos "shine spike" :chuckle: .

[Da-Viv1.]

ok, shine, guy flies in air, jump and do a dair, then come down L-cancel and shine again, then repeat the process....isnt that a shine spike?

[NJzFinest]

ok, shine, guy flies in air, jump and do a dair, then come down L-cancel and shine again, then repeat the process....isnt that a shine spike?
no, it's not. that's called JC shine + D-air Fastfall, repeat. it's just a combo.

since when did combos have special names?

read my shine guide, k? thanks, good bye

[Rock Lobsta]

^ yeah, if youve ever seen bombsoldier, its like his only move. Just a combo.

[bornfidelity.com]

no, it's not. that's called JC shine + D-air Fastfall, repeat. it's just a combo.

since when did combos have special names?



Well, its commonly referred to as 'shine to spike' combo (as opposed to pillaring and waveshining. i guess they have special names because they get confused alot. or the other way around :p)

[The Hanz]

well shine them dair -waveshine to a next shine, then dair basically :) just repeat that

[jamz]

wow go to any random player and start mentioning falco terminolgy and they will flip there lid :). falco is a very technical player (the most technical in the game IMO). shine spike is fox's. shine>d-air> spike > etc. is falcos. :chuckle:

[The_Marth_Madness]

Falco can only shinespike a recovering yoshi, I've done it before lol.

[NJzFinest]

Falco can only shinespike a recovering yoshi, I've done it before lol.
that's just because any attack (like falco's shine) stops yoshi's double jump movement at high damage. that doesnt really count.