Help Me Pick An Alt To Falco

[xelad1]

So falco is most definitely my main character right now, ive almost gotten down all of his technical skill to the point where i can pull it off on command almost 100 percent of the time. SInce my skill has improved with falco my options have also increased in terms of my starting ability with other characters. I find it very easy to pick up most other characters and play them at a much more advanced level.

Anyway the point is ive been messing around and I would like to pick up one more main character that complements falco or that may be a good substitute if im having problems against other people with falco.

So far ive experimented with:

marth
doc
ICs (intrigued by them a lot just because of chudat of course :) )
fox (not sure if i want to spend the time to get his technical stuff down 100% but a possiblity)
samus(just a little bit though)
Ganondorf

Oh I forgot to mention Shiek (probably because I hate her guts :) ) but I would be willing to give her a shot if shes a good counter to some of falcos weaker matchups.

And thats pretty much it, any suggestions or reasons why any of these guys (or other characters of course) would be helpful it would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

[McRustyJr]

fox! cant spell falco without fox!

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

ICs (intrigued by them a lot just because of chudat of course :) )
fox (not sure if i want to spend the time to get his technical stuff down 100% but a possiblity)

ICs is hecka harder to learn.

then again i'm a fox player. but IC stuff just seems soooo crazy. like how the heck do you do that ****? durrrrrr

fox should be a tad easier to pick up tho, just because of the similar movesets. they do have different styles, tho.

any or all of those chars seem like good fun ideas. (samus is a bit weird tho.)
fox and marth are kind of overplayed tho.

(im not thinking about char matchups here)

[ShizutYoMizouf]

falcoz only problemz are like jiggz (sorta), peach, and ice climberz...so tha best choice would prolly be ganon or marth

[McRustyJr]

ganondorf is a horrible character

[len1]

My mains are Doc, Falco, and Jigglypuff but my sides are Ness, Kirby(because of T!MMY'S 1-800-Kirbycide video) and Ganon (who is not horrible if used right)


and my freind McMonkey uses falco but is currently learning samus as well

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

uhhhhh since falco is 5th from the top of the tier list, balance it out by picking 5th from the bottom. that's kirby!

whatever you do, dont base your decisions solely off of our advice.

[Hope]

I've Falco as main and marth as second. I guess i love dair spikes :D

And marth rapes peach and jigz :D

[crescentia]

uhhhhh since falco is 5th from the top of the tier list, balance it out by picking 5th from the bottom. that's kirby!

whatever you do, dont base your decisions solely off of our advice. Uh, where have *you* been in the last few days? Falco's second on the list.

Second from the bottom now is Pichu... hmm...

[Sighrax]

ganondorf is a horrible character
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anyway id say marth or maybe sheik. they're both semi-floaty, so if you're playing someone who can do really good against fastfallers, you switch it up :O

[ShizutYoMizouf]

ganondorf is a horrible character

yup but falcoz too good and since ganon only does good against like 3-4 ppl (tha rest brutally molest him wit no remorse lolz) and they just happen to be tha only ppl that falco has a slightly hard time wit ganon iz perfect, and by perfect i mean marth would be better

[Sighrax]

yup but falcoz too good and since ganon only does good against like 3-4 ppl (tha rest brutally molest him wit no remorse lolz) and they just happen to be tha only ppl that falco has a slightly hard time wit ganon iz perfect, and by perfect i mean marth would be better

ganon does great against a lot more than 3-4 characters. please don't say things you don't know jack about. perhaps you don't have a great ganondorf you've ever played, but they are far from easy.

[ChozenOne]

Use Marth or Fox... Falco can get PWNed by IC's, Peach, and Jiggs (if you don't know how to DI)... Marth/Fox do substancially better in all of those matchups.

[McRustyJr]

ganon does great against a lot more than 3-4 characters. please don't say things you don't know jack about. perhaps you don't have a great ganondorf you've ever played, but they are far from easy.
we arent talking about beating up little noobs here dude. off the top of my head; peach, ice climbers, samus, luigi, donkey kong, i wont even bother going below that...

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

Uh, where have *you* been in the last few days? Falco's second on the list.

Second from the bottom now is Pichu... hmm...

snap! woulda never checked melee discussion if it hadn't been for this post...never thought they'd EVER get around to making a new list.

uhhhhhhhhhhh
in that case be prepared to be called a tier-***** if you pick fox + falco.

[666angelus]

I suggest Sheik but I could be biased cause she is my number 1 character. Falco was the first character I mastered and is my second main character. I think if you can use Falco well you should be able to use master Sheik fairly easily. here is a link to page that helped me master Sheik.

http://www.freewebs.com/xiffer/sheikfaq.html

[JBM falcon08]

Do not use sheik, she is countered by fox, and its an even matchup falco v sheik, the only thing sheik really has on falco is the edgeguarding ability, and not being able to really ledge tech her attacks.

haha, ganon horrible, he is one of the ONLY true counters for peach, his fair is practically is marth's tipper at 60% and will kill her off of the edge. i'd suggest using fox, because if your having troubles against a sheik as falco. Do not pick marth, your going to experience alot of frustration and you will hate sheik even more trying to pick marth against her, considering thats his only true counter, but i've heard from alot of people who main as falco secondary main is along the lines of ganon, fox, cfalcon, but thats your choice.

ICs do not counter, or are more favorable against falco, you just have to play smart, a falco has just as much on the IC's with pillaring as they do with chain grabs, its all about playing smart against them, no one counters falco, or really is favorable in the matchup against him, thats why he is considered so high on the tier list as of now, if it wasn't for his poor recovery he could possibly have taken top tier from fox.

i'd say play fox though, they have similar styles in some ways, and someways not, but fox takes alot of time to become good with.

[xelad1]

Any other suggestions + reasons out there?

[soulman101]

I am biased because I use both Falco and Marth but I would use Marth, as an alternate character and as JBM falcon08 said just us Falco against sheik Its an even match and Marth destroys most characters Falco has trouble with.

[ShizutYoMizouf]

ganon does great against a lot more than 3-4 characters. please don't say things you don't know jack about. perhaps you don't have a great ganondorf you've ever played, but they are far from easy.

lolz plz just shut up ganon sux bro deal wit it

[xelad1]

lolz plz just shut up ganon sux bro deal wit it

rofl... but he is extremely fun to play with

[Angelic Guns]

I would say go with fox, if you have the patience to master him.

[DarkKnight077]

Eh..Fox go with him.

[xelad1]

Eh..Fox go with him.

over an alt like marth? explain

[JBM falcon08]

Marth is a great character, but he is saying that he is having troubles with sheik, and if he were to alt marth, it wouldn't help him and could even get worse, due to the fact that sheik is marths only counter, and its a very hard matchup if you don't know how to deal with it, fox is the smarter choice to due to his superiority over everyone in the game, top tier ftw.

[BrTarolg]

experiment with all the characters and pick one you LIKE, not one because of its technical ability

i picked falco because i really liked his style.. but i didnt ifnd that out till i tried the vast majoirty of other characters.

[mathos]

Personally I think Fox or Sheik would be a good idea for secondaries. Neither one of them should be hard to learn competitively.

Fox is a lot like Falco, most of the timings are different. The only problem is that Fox doesn't really help you counter anyone. Fox does better against Sheik but Sheik can gay kill Fox easier than Falco. Fox is also so much like Falco that a opponent won't really have to change much with their combos against you.

Shiek is a nice secondary because of the easy learning curve, but its difficult to have a good sheik for competitive play. Sheik will help with Peach, Marth, and Jiggs but Falco can have the advantage over them depending on how you play your Falco.

Ganondorf is a great character. He doesn't get countered as much as everyone thinks he does (see JoeBushman111 vids). But alas if you don't main with him you might find yourself getting destroyed by other players. Ganon has many bad things about him and its difficult to understand how to play him efficiently against characters.

[Wave Bird]

I would agree with McRusty. If you want an alt that complements Falco, Fox mos def.

[datman6699]

ganondorf is a horrible character
you, sir, are teh suxorz :ohwell:

[Crazyspik]

y dont you just get good with marth and fox...

[forward]

Uhm I think Roy is a good secondary cuz it will help you with Falco or whoever your main character is for that matter.

But for a tournament Fox is your best bet as a secondary I'd say.

[Terjerash]

Yes i'd say fox also because i use him as secondary to Mario. he's a little faster than falco. P.S. Make sure you go crazy with Meteor Smashes, it'll drive your opponent crazy

[xelad1]

well at this point ive picked up fox and have started getting his technical skill down (wasn't too hard because he basically feels like falco but sped up... at least in terms of technical ability like waveshining mind you not actual playstile of course). I've been faring pretty well with him in friendlies and my control over his movements seem to be sharpening up.. of course now i feel like a tier ***** (not like I wouldn't have picked marth or shiek as an alt too lol)

[BrTarolg]

if i were you, i would avoid ganondorf, fox and IC as your secondaries. really, those characters should be your mains, not secondaries, if you want to play them, otherwise you really risk getting destroyed simply due to superior play.

another thing is - not all people can handle fox's speed, the playstyle of ganon or the way IC works. simply put, i tried fox for a long time, and decided that the speed simply wasnt for me - i much preferred falco over him. CF was even worse in this respect.

personally, i choose marth as my secondary. marth i find, was MUCH easier to learn proficiently than shiek. then again, maybe i prefer the playstyle of marth - using lots of combos and using mindgames to deliver lots of strong, high damage high knockbak attacks - as opposed to shiek which relies on her speed and overall greatness to rack up REALLY long combos which are usually inescapable.

i mean, you will never see shiek do dfair -> fsmash, or rely on dashdancing for her main source of mindgqames.

[Zink]

I go Falco + Marth, Marth combos are crazy fun to pull off. dash ftilt dash ftilt dash utilt fair fair nair dair.

[Lord SHL]

Use Marth, he's almost as dirty as Falco.

[xelad1]

ive been messing around with fox as of late but since the movesets are the same he messes up my falcos timing when i switch back and forth unfortuneatly. Marth seems to be a pretty standard choice it would seem though i cant short hop and double fair for the life of me :(

[smashin pete]

Can't go wrong with Captain Douglas Jay Falcon.

[mcc]

whenever i switch from playing falco to fox, i would sometimes try to use falco's combos with fox (which obviously don't work).

what's wrong with having fox, ICs, and gannondorf as a secondary? i have tons of secondaries, and they're all part of it. and i'm not that bad with them either

[viperboy_74]

heh, falco is all you need...

don't worry bout secondaries...