Alien Hominid for SSBB

[Scafl D. Salazzar]

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Now, I did a search, and I KNOW this hasn't been done yet. Alien Hominid would be a great character because he has a huge fanbase on newgrounds.com (www.newgrounds.com), and the console version of Alien Hominid had a GC version, so an appearance in Brawl could attract more fans and potentially boost sales (not by much, but still). Alien Hominid is also just an appealing character in general. It's the classic "Alien crashes on Earth and is chased by FBI Agents" story. There aren't too many (useful) projectile users, and Alien Hominid has the potential to be one of the good ones, what with his chargable laser. His knife could also be useful for quick melee rushes.

[TropicalTaco]

Seems kind of lame to me...

Looks like he stole Earthworm Jim's gun too... (He'd probly make a better character too, now that I think about it.)

[xianfeng]

waste of a 3rd party spot

[Iggy K]

Not enough useful projectile users? Fox, Falco, Samus, Sheik and Peach aren't enough for you? Anyway, there's LOTS of 3rd party characters who should be in nefore this guy. And there's no way they'd put a knife in this game, to realistic and mature, if Snake isn't getting it, why would this guy?

[TGun]

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Now, I did a search, and I KNOW this hasn't been done yet. Alien Hominid would be a great character because he has a huge fanbase on newgrounds.com (www.newgrounds.com), and the console version of Alien Hominid had a GC version, so an appearance in Brawl could attract more fans and potentially boost sales (not by much, but still). Alien Hominid is also just an appealing character in general. It's the classic "Alien crashes on Earth and is chased by FBI Agents" story. There aren't too many (useful) projectile users, and Alien Hominid has the potential to be one of the good ones, what with his chargable laser. His knife could also be useful for quick melee rushes.
Oh and the reason why theres a HUGE fanbase at newgrounds.com is because the creator of new grounds (tom fulp) made alien hominid. Not to be a negative nancy but thats kinda lame and unexpected to the gaming franchise itself... sorry


-TGun

[actionlen]

I like alien hominid a lot, so I would like to see him in the game.

[tirkaro]

*looks at submission*
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*laughs so hard he rolls on the floor* :laugh:

alien hominid? :laugh: thats the worst idea I've heard since ballpoint pen! :laugh:

sorry dude, but even though he has a chance,(about a 0.000000000000001% chance) smash is about REAL game characters duking it out. AH hardly counts as a real game cause it was just some flash game made into a console game. also nobody cares about AH besides the NG addicts. and he is a HUUGE waste of a 3rd party slot. SSBB deserves much better than....THAT thing. SSBB needs characters from REAL game compnies like capcom or konami or sega, or even tecmo. not newgrounds! :laugh:

[Marshy]

alien hominid? :laugh: thats the worst idea I've heard since ballpoint pen! :laugh:

I don't know, I think James(Star Fox) and Deoxys are even worse ideas....who made those topics again?

Anyway, he's 3rd party, there are other 3rd party characters that deserve it more. This idea is lame, want more projectile fighters? Pit and Geno.

[Stryks]

I don't know, I think James(Star Fox) and Deoxys are even worse ideas....who made those topics again?

Anyway, he's 3rd party, there are other 3rd party characters that deserve it more. This idea is lame, want more projectile fighters? Pit and Geno.

Since when is Deoxys a bad idea, hes one of the best pokemon out there, cause hes the one of few (if any) pokemon that has diferent forms: Normal, attack, speed and defense, so all of those can be attacks n makes him a unique character.
No returnin to the alien dude, dont know he looks kinda weak and only has a gun, besides not EVERYONE goes to newgrounds, so many fans would be happy too c him, but many many more wouldnt even recognize him.
So I say no.

[tirkaro]

I don't know, I think James(Star Fox) and Deoxys are even worse ideas....who made those topics again?
I made the deoxys one. like stryks said, deoxys is a very deserving pokemon to be in brawl, unlike AH, who is some flash dude. so its pretty safe to assume that you(marshigo) are a pokemon hater, right? ;)

(geno is actualy 10x worse of an idea. I mean, some puppet dude who I half the population of smashboards havent heard of until the geno thread thing? what a waste of a square submission.)

[icymatt]

Going from homemade game to being featured in a major console release? That's kinda like going from writing for the school newspaper to Time, doesn't it?

Wonky idea. Won't happen, but fun nonetheless.

And the people who have never heard of Geno need to play Super Mario RPG, now!

[Zeeb]

(geno is actualy 10x worse of an idea. I mean, some puppet dude who I half the population of smashboards havent heard of until the geno thread thing? what a waste of a square submission.)

While Geno only appeared in one game (apart from a brief cameo or two), Super Mario RPG was a very important transitional step for mario from the 2d to 3d world and was arguably one of the better (if not best) RPGs on the SNES. Just because Geno is a puppet and doesn't wield some outrageously oversized sword doesn't mean he wouldn't be a great addition to SSBB, and I'm sure your made up figure of "half of smashboards" not hearing of Geno until a support thread is completely inaccurate... Anywho back to the thread topic I agree in thinking that this 3rd party spot should go to a much more deserving character (see above), and projectile using characters will be abundant by looking at the returning and confirmed characters already reported.

[Puffball64]

I don't know, I think James(Star Fox) and Deoxys are even worse ideas....who made those topics again?

Anyway, he's 3rd party, there are other 3rd party characters that deserve it more. This idea is lame, want more projectile fighters? Pit and Geno.

I agree with EVERYTHING Marsh mentioned.

Also, I hate AH with a passion, such a horrible game.

AH is nothing but more garbage, alongside Deoxys and James.

[commonyoshi]

This game was fun for a while. Certainly not Brawl worthy.

[Scafl D. Salazzar]

Oh and the reason why theres a HUGE fanbase at newgrounds.com is because the creator of new grounds (tom fulp) made alien hominid.

And you think I don't know this? Lord.

Going from homemade game to being featured in a major console release? That's kinda like going from writing for the school newspaper to Time, doesn't it?

sorry dude, but even though he has a chance,(about a 0.000000000000001% chance) smash is about REAL game characters duking it out. AH hardly counts as a real game cause it was just some flash game made into a console game. also nobody cares about AH besides the NG addicts. and he is a HUUGE waste of a 3rd party slot. SSBB deserves much better than....THAT thing. SSBB needs characters from REAL game compnies like capcom or konami or sega, or even tecmo. not newgrounds!

LLOZ IT WAZ A FLAZH GAM SO IT IZ OT OF TEH KWEZJON ROFL DOFL SCFOLZ!!!1!!11!!!1 I hate it when elitist nerds say superfluous bull crap like that on a daily basis. How can you say Alien Hominid doesn't count as a real video game because it was popular enough to transcend Newgrounds and become a console game? Your logic makes no sense. I think a Flash-to-Console move is an important landmark in the video game industry, but's just me. As for the Capcom, Sega etc. arguement, that's the kind of attitude that ticks me off. So, Capcom and Sega characters deserve Brawl slots and characters from smaller companies like Taito and Natsume are out of the question, right? I'd love to see Rastan or Pocky and Rocky in SSBB.

Also, according to Game Rankings, the GC version of Alien Hominid has an accumulated 80% rating from critics and is ranked 102 out of about 400+ games on the GC, beating out supposedly more popular and dare I say, more critically acclaimed games like Luigi's Mansion, Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc, Chibi-Robo, Bomberman Generation, Pokemon Colosseum, Pac-Man World 2, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle and Wario World. I could be wrong, but I'm sure several people have made threads about characters from these games. Bomberman, Shadow and Pac-Man come to mind. That said, I think in all decency Alien Hominid has a fanbase beyond Newgrounds. The critics sure seem to like him. He deserves just as much a chance in SSBB as Pac-Man, of all characters.

Also, I think it's fair to mention that I think Newgrounds is a crappy web site now. It used to be great site and still houses some great content, but people have lost sight of Tom Fulp and people only care about hacks like Adam Phillips and David Firth. I just really love Alien Hominid a lot.

[hemightbegiant]

I really don't think he has a chance, after all, he has to compete with Sonic, Megaman, Snake, Ryu Hayabusa, Pac-Man, Kalas, Bonk, and I could just go on for people more deserving. Besides, the console versins weren't that good IMO

I'll take the original flash over the console anyday!

PS: Has anybodyt played the other games from the creator of Alien Homonid? They're fun. My favorite is "Clubby The Seal" :)

[Scafl D. Salazzar]

I really don't think he has a chance, after all, he has to compete with Sonic, Megaman, Snake, Ryu Hayabusa, Pac-Man, Kalas, Bonk, and I could just go on for people more deserving. Besides, the console versins weren't that good IMO

I'll take the original flash over the console anyday!

PS: Has anybodyt played the other games from the creator of Alien Homonid? They're fun. My favorite is "Clubby The Seal" :)

Hey, at least you're not being Mr. Bashy about it. I think Tom Fulp would immediately jump at the chance to have Alien Hominid in it, since he loves Nintendo. Heck, Castle Crashers (the game he's working on now for Xbox Live Arcade) was going to be a GameCube exclusive (or was the GC version the first to be developed? I'm not sure), but was impossible due to publishers not looking for GC games any more. I think that would be enough to get on Nintendo's good side as far as third parties go.

Oh yeah, to whoever said a knife is too "mature." If that were true, then why are there even sword users? I hope Snake DOES have a knife in Brawl.

Edit: Oh crap. Alien Hominid is going to be on Live Arcade too. So much for Alien Hominid in Brawl.

[Marshy]

Also, according to Game Rankings, the GC version of Alien Hominid has an accumulated 80% rating from critics and is ranked 102 out of 40636 games on the GC, beating out supposedly more popular and dare I say, more critically acclaimed games like Luigi's Mansion, Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc, Chibi-Robo, Bomberman Generation, Pokemon Colosseum, Pac-Man World 2, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle and Wario World.

He deserves just as much a chance in SSBB as Pac-Man, of all characters.


Your first comment is wrong, there aren't 40636 games on the GC, there aren't even 1,000.

Your second comment makes me sad.

[phanna]

Hey cool some other Newgrounds fans. If any of you use the forums, you might know me:

http://www.newgrounds.com/gold/profile/pics/403000/403507_pic.gif

But as for AH in smash, he's too gory / violent to appear in smash. Biting FBI agents heads off? Not for the kiddies.

[ColonelAlloy]

Wow, the ignorant prejudice in this thread is staggering.

Sure, there are a lot of reasons AH shouldn't be in the game (for instance, his signature move is to decapitate opponents with his teeth), but the quality of his game or his relative obscurity shouldn't be reasons. As far as quality goes, Alien Hominid was a great game that was a fantastic homage to Contra and Metal Slug (and I prefer AH OVER Metal Slug), as well as having enemies with great charisma (for instance, the pudding monster, the robotic bee, the sand worm, and that russian guy).

As far as obscurity goes, AH was actually a pretty big deal to thousands of fans. Critics loved it, and it was a much publicized event when the underdogs managed to put out a console game. And when did obscurity matter in SSB anyway? Who the **** knew and/or cared about G&W or Ice Climber? No one except a handful of people, and that's all it takes really.

So while I agree AH shouldn't be in SSBB, he's a good character from a great game, and you don't have to disrespect it to make your point.

--Colonel Alloy

[mooseproduce]

:D As much as enjoy your suggestion (Alien Hominid is one of the best console games out there all told), Nintendo would nevah EVAH even consider it. I'm not even going to back that up, that's just how it is. :)

That being said, the hominid would be a much better choice as compared to half the crap people have suggested here. I've always thought that a character who could projectile downwards would be shnazzy. Use it to kind of float a bit, y'know? And if said projectiles dissapeared a small ways from the character (as they do in AH), then they'd be very different as compared to, say, Fox's lasers. Plus, the hominid has grenades for B, burrowing for Down-B, a throw move from his game... his Up-B is the only thing for which I can't think of anything really suitable. But that's where creativity comes in, I suppose. Perhaps they could make him the second character not to have an Up-B. (Lord knows, that's one character property they haven't duplicated a billion times.)

[Scafl D. Salazzar]

Wow, the ignorant prejudice in this thread is staggering.

Sure, there are a lot of reasons AH shouldn't be in the game (for instance, his signature move is to decapitate opponents with his teeth), but the quality of his game or his relative obscurity shouldn't be reasons. As far as quality goes, Alien Hominid was a great game that was a fantastic homage to Contra and Metal Slug (and I prefer AH OVER Metal Slug), as well as having enemies with great charisma (for instance, the pudding monster, the robotic bee, the sand worm, and that russian guy).

As far as obscurity goes, AH was actually a pretty big deal to thousands of fans. Critics loved it, and it was a much publicized event when the underdogs managed to put out a console game. And when did obscurity matter in SSB anyway? Who the **** knew and/or cared about G&W or Ice Climber? No one except a handful of people, and that's all it takes really.

So while I agree AH shouldn't be in SSBB, he's a good character from a great game, and you don't have to disrespect it to make your point.

--Colonel Alloy

Holy crap, someone is making some sense for once. And to think I almost lost all hope of me ever posting on Smashboards again. About 75% of the threads on here get this kind of treatment.

I agree completely about Alien Hominid being an excellent game. I don't know if it's better than Contra or Metal Slug, but it is a great game full of charm and charisma. I think people who have never even been on Newgrounds could like Alien Hominid just because he's just so cute and charismatic. Get it through, people. People don't NEED to have prior knowledge of him chomping off people's heads. He could just do a Bowser-esc "bite" instead.

And about obscurity, I can't believe half of you had the nerve to even mention AH's relative obscurity as a flaw. Like Colonel said, when has the obscurity of a character ever been relevant to the character roster of a SSB game?

:D As much as enjoy your suggestion (Alien Hominid is one of the best console games out there all told), Nintendo would nevah EVAH even consider it. I'm not even going to back that up, that's just how it is.

That being said, the hominid would be a much better choice as compared to half the crap people have suggested here. I've always thought that a character who could projectile downwards would be shnazzy. Use it to kind of float a bit, y'know? And if said projectiles dissapeared a small ways from the character (as they do in AH), then they'd be very different as compared to, say, Fox's lasers. Plus, the hominid has grenades for B, burrowing for Down-B, a throw move from his game... his Up-B is the only thing for which I can't think of anything really suitable. But that's where creativity comes in, I suppose. Perhaps they could make him the second character not to have an Up-B. (Lord knows, that's one character property they haven't duplicated a billion times.)

Wow, the down projectile sounds brilliant. Great move set. Like I said before, Tom Fulp loves Nintendo a lot, and I think if him and Miyamoto met they would at least become good friends the same way Miyamoto and Kojima are, to a lesser extent of course.

Your first comment is wrong, there aren't 40636 games on the GC, there aren't even 1,000.

Your second comment makes me sad.

How silly of me, there are 40636 articles pertaining to the GC on GameRankings. My mistake.

Also, I hate the kind forum elitism people like you represent. You remind me of a typical NeoGAF member.

[Marshy]

I couldn't care less if you hated my views/me or not, especially when I don't know you and don't care to put the effort to get to know you. You can go ahead and judge me from 1 of my 1,523 posts, but that wouldn't be very fair. Let's not make this a mindless flame war.

Even if Alien Hominid is the 102(or whatever number you named) best game on the Gamecube(which is highly debatable), there are 101 better games worth of characters to choose from. Especially 3rd party ones.

[Scafl D. Salazzar]

I couldn't care less if you hated my views/me or not, especially when I don't know you and don't care to put the effort to get to know you. You can go ahead and judge me from 1 of my 1,523 posts, but that wouldn't be very fair. Let's not make this a mindless flame war.

I'm sorry, that came out of absolutely no where. I just get similar comments from people wherever I go, and it becomes monotonous after a while. Forgive me.

[Marshy]

Meh, no problem.

I didn't say I didn't want him to be excluded out of hate, but that there are characters with priority over him(Since Sakurai said that there will only be 1-2 3rd party ones).

[ThundaSnake]

Alien Hominid was definitely a fun game.

[Scafl D. Salazzar]

Meh, no problem.

I didn't say I didn't want him to be excluded out of hate, but that there are characters with priority over him(Since Sakurai said that there will only be 1-2 3rd party ones).

I wasn't mad about you not wanting AH in it, I was just mad about the "sad" comment you made. Again, I'm sorry.

And there are a lot of better characters. But I can dream, can't I?