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Drik Khaail
08-03-2006, 12:53 PM
I do not want young link the way he was in melee, but this time is "mask link". bsmash could turn him into zora link, b could turn him into deku link, b down could be goron link, and b up could be his old attack. When he gets a smash orb, he turns into fierce deity, whom would be a more powerful and swifter version of link. The moves of the mask characters would be judged by their attacks in majoras mask.

The Basement Dweller
08-03-2006, 02:25 PM
I really hope young Link isn't back.

zombie7775
08-03-2006, 02:27 PM
I hope he isnt back also. His attacks are exactly like links, and they really cant change him that much.

NukeA6
08-03-2006, 06:34 PM
We don't need Young Link. There are other characters that deserve a spot. And who cares if he's the original Link; the most recognized Link is the 17 year old one.

BIRDMAN22
08-03-2006, 06:38 PM
I agree. Y.Link doesn't need to make an appearance in brawl. They should keep older Link and just add more LOZ characters.

ThundaSnake
08-03-2006, 06:38 PM
I hope he isnt back also. His attacks are exactly like links, and they really cant change him that much.

Falco's attacks are exactly like Fox's. Your point?

Marshy
08-03-2006, 06:42 PM
Not really, they have different effects. Look at their blasters and down aerial. Much different.

I have a brilliant plan that will make everyone happy. Take the best of Y. Link, and the best of Link, and put it into Link. Then we have more space for characters, Link will be better, and Link will sorta play like Y.Link, if that makes any sense.

BIRDMAN22
08-03-2006, 06:43 PM
Falco's attacks are exactly like Fox's. Your point?
Fox and Falco are 2 seperate characters, Link and Y.Link are 2 different versions of the same character.

DarkKnight077
08-03-2006, 06:47 PM
Well Y. Link is faster,smaller,not as strong..as Link. I guess you can leave him in there..just change his moves set. Add the mirror shield, change his sword to the Great Fairy sword or that sword when using the razor sword..from Majora's Mask.

Chickenboy666
08-03-2006, 08:03 PM
Not really, they have different effects. Look at their blasters and down aerial. Much different.

I have a brilliant plan that will make everyone happy. Take the best of Y. Link, and the best of Link, and put it into Link. Then we have more space for characters, Link will be better, and Link will sorta play like Y.Link, if that makes any sense.

I don't think that's a "brilliant plan", cuz it would create a Super-Link. It would be better creating average stats between Link and Y Link and give them to the Brawl Link.

Anyways, if YLink will come back, I hope he will be Windwaker Link

Stryks
08-04-2006, 12:39 AM
No Y. Link.
Unless he can transfrom into Oni Link then maybe just maybe he can stay, also dont want him to be a clone.

Zombie Cola
08-04-2006, 04:25 AM
Well for that matter falco, and ganon need to be removed too. No point in having two characters that move exactly the same, but have 2 or 3 different moves, or are a faster/slower version of their sister character. We need to capitalize on space and make room for more characters. The easy solution would be to make the character their own, eg. give gannon his massive sword and give him his own move set. However, I also hope that Y. Link is removed, he takes up space and could be traded for either a different "Zelda" entity, or a character from a new game altogether.

xianfeng
08-04-2006, 04:28 AM
I hope he isnt back also. His attacks are exactly like links, and they really cant change him that much.
neither can Roy

Chi's Finest
08-04-2006, 04:29 AM
They're getting rid of the whole clone thing, so that probably means that Ganon will get his own moveset. I'm pretty sure IC's, Pichu, Dr. Mario, Roy, and Y Link are gone.

xianfeng
08-04-2006, 04:43 AM
ICs won't leave only clones will. Pichu and Dr Mario are the ones most likely to leave but sadly Roy and Young Link are up there too :(

Chi's Finest
08-04-2006, 04:50 AM
I thought I heard someting about IC's leaving, but I'm not sure.

xianfeng
08-04-2006, 04:51 AM
I thought I heard someting about IC's leaving, but I'm not sure.
They admitted it was fake but yeah that was a rumour it also said G&W and YL were confirmed gone and Cellda Link, Ridley and somone else were confirmed.

Chi's Finest
08-04-2006, 05:04 AM
I remember that thing, but I don't remember hearing it from there. Oh well, wherever I heard it, it proably wasn't the right source.

avyuir
08-04-2006, 05:08 AM
I wouldn't mind having Y. Link back but he definitly needs to be a lot more different than A. Link. The only thing that was different was there bow.

Drik Khaail
08-04-2006, 09:19 AM
If you read the post, it suggests changing his move so he'll be able to use all the transform masks from majoras mask, not leave him the same. He sucked in melee, i agree there. but majoras mask was one of the only games I know of not dealing with the master sword, thus not killing that theme until windwaker came. And also, flamers, If you dont want the clones back, please dont post so much.


Another Idea could be to limit it to one per costume: green-deku link-red-goron link-blue-zora link. It would sure save a lot of character spots and allow you to be your favorite mask link character, and fierce deity link could remain the smash attack. This time, please reply without flaming :mad:

BrawlinNess
08-04-2006, 10:49 AM
You know, I thought about this mask idea for a while so I'm glad someone brought it up, here's a possible moveset while keeping clone aspects only different moves:

B- Light Arrow : Basically the same attack as Young Link's in SSBM only the arrow turns a bright yellow and if fully charged can stun.

B-Over- Mikau's Fins: Link transforms into Mikau the Zora and uses his boomerang fins (actually an attack in-game in Majora's Mask)

B-Up- Deku Spin: Link transforms into Deku Link and does the patented Deku Spin (actually an attack in-game in Majora's Mask)

B-Down- Powder Keg: Link transforms with his Goron Mask and uses the Powder Keg, a powerful bomb that was featured in Majora's mask avaliable only as a Goron.

Brawl Move- Wrath of Majora: Link tansforms into Oni Link and uses various sword swipes and beams from his sword before he calls the Moon down to crash on the stage.

Marshy
08-04-2006, 11:37 AM
That's fine, but I don't want him in Brawl. That rumor was fake too.

And to whoever neg-repped me, at least tell me the reason why rather than just neg-repping me for no reason, especially after proposing an idea.

BIRDMAN22
08-04-2006, 11:42 AM
I am still opposed to the same character being represented twice so how about this. What if Link and and Y.Link just utilized a transformation system like zelda and sheik. The could take the boomerang away from adult link and take the arrows away from y.link. The could do an ocarina of time transformation were he plays the ocarina, just quicker like zelda/sheik.

EDIT: Hey Marshigio, I've was neg repped also on this thread and the sonic thread with no reason. It's probably some immature nOOb who you disagreed with.

Super Smash Master
08-04-2006, 12:04 PM
Falco's attacks are exactly like Fox's. Your point?
His point is clones are either gone or reworked in Brawl. Y. Link is one of the most likely people to go.

Chi's Finest
08-04-2006, 05:34 PM
That rumor about the clones, and IC's came from the same source that said that the game would have more aerial combat. Everyone speaks of the aerial thing as if it's a fact, so I would assume that the other news is also.

EDIT: I got negative repped on this thread too.

xianfeng
08-04-2006, 09:48 PM
I goy neg repped too.

I want Y. Link to return in his WW incarnation that way he is a different character than Link (they are different links from different times)

Marshy
08-04-2006, 10:03 PM
EDIT: I got negative repped on this thread too.

I goy neg repped too.



EDIT: Hey Marshigio, I've was neg repped also on this thread and the sonic thread with no reason. It's probably some immature nOOb who you disagreed with.

Conspiracy! Let's look at the clues.

1. Chances are, they get upset easily.
2. Their amount of rep isn't anything special, seeing as how it only lowered me by 1 point.
3. They probably did it for no reason at all.
4. This is the most important clue, me, xianfeng, Birdman, and Chi's Finest all said that we either don't want him back, or that the clones will probably be removed.

Well, it's not a big deal. Also, once you rep/derep someone, you can't do it until you rep/derep other people first. But come on....whoever -reps someone should at least give reasons as to why they did so.

So I have a solution, everyone +rep me and stare at my sig.

Iggy K
08-04-2006, 10:09 PM
So I have a solution, everyone +rep me and stare at my sig.

Sure, but only because you have a good sig, as for Young Link, he might come back as Windwaker Link, or else he's probably gone.

xianfeng
08-04-2006, 10:09 PM
So I have a solution, everyone +rep me and stare at my sig.
I can't I have to share it around before I can +rep you

/\/1/\/J4
08-04-2006, 11:09 PM
IC better not be removed i seriously love em >.< and Y.Link i hope is gone cus as already said hes just a weaker link.

Lu-Gi-Oh!
08-05-2006, 03:24 AM
I hate this characters being removed thing, but yeah, Young Link will definitely either be replaced by the Wind Waker Link or be removed altogether. Nintendo seems to mostly want to incorporate chars, designs, moves, stages, etc. from popular, RECENT games, and OoT and MM ain't recent, so Hero of Time Young Link is DEFINITELY out.

Chi's Finest
08-05-2006, 03:38 AM
I doubt they're gonna have Link and WW Link. Just because he has two different looks doesn't mean he deserves two characters. Samus is different because she's a bigger difference in her characters. It would make just as much sense as having regular Link and the Link from SNES.

Drik Khaail
08-05-2006, 10:24 AM
First, I cannot imagine ww link in brawl (god, that would be freaky). Second, this is a thread about a positive suggestion, so for the love of god, read the freakin' post and say if its a good idea or not, dont say " Young link is just a weaker and faster version of link", well, roy is a strong marth, falco is a strong version of fox, ganondorf is just a stronger version of c falcon, and etc. Finally, young link has just as much a possibility of getting thrown as any other clone, thus, they should just rework the character.

Thunderbolt
08-05-2006, 01:25 PM
I doubt they're gonna have Link and WW Link. Just because he has two different looks doesn't mean he deserves two characters. Samus is different because she's a bigger difference in her characters. It would make just as much sense as having regular Link and the Link from SNES.
Wrong.

Samus is not a bigger difference. With or without the suit, its still the same person. The Wind Waker Link is from a DIFFERENT time period than the TP Link. Just because they have the same type of clothes, doesn't mean they are the same person. Your looking at this upside down.

"Just because he has two different looks doesn't mean he deserves two characters."

Now look at the 2 Samus'. Just because she isn't wearing a space suit doesn't mean she deserves two different characters. Who said the Links have to have the same attacks this time around? Young Link deserves to be on Brawl as much as Zero Suit Samus does.

BIRDMAN22
08-05-2006, 01:39 PM
There is only one link. All the different links are just from different universes. (Kinda like the Jet Li movie The One). Link doesn't need different representation. Him being smaller, cell-shaded, with the same moves is just a waste of time. I guess we can keep Oot Zelda and add TP Zelda because she has a sword. (please note the sarcasm)

Unfortunately, I'm starting to think they will add WW link because all the fanboys are craving him. I guess there still might be a few clones in brawl after all.

Thunderbolt
08-05-2006, 02:24 PM
There is only one link. All the different links are just from different universes. (Kinda like the Jet Li movie The One). Link doesn't need different representation. Him being smaller, cell-shaded, with the same moves is just a waste of time. I guess we can keep Oot Zelda and add TP Zelda because she has a sword. (please note the sarcasm)

Unfortunately, I'm starting to think they will add WW link because all the fanboys are craving him. I guess there still might be a few clones in brawl after all.
Your starting to act like you never played a Zelda game. Every Zelda game is a different story. NO LINK IS THE SAME. (except Adult Link and Young Link from OoT)

The Link from Twilight Princess and the Link from Ocarina of Time are two completly different boys. If you acually payed attention to the story lines in the games then you would know. Just because they wear green and have blonde hair, DOES NOT make them the same. The Twilight Princess story takes place 10 Years after the Orcarina of Time.

Marshy
08-05-2006, 02:27 PM
No need to split hairs, AND TYPING IN CAPS DOES NOT MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO LISTEN TO YOU.

Officially, they are different characters, but there are better characters to choose from the Zelda universe(Ganondorf w/sword, Vaati, Ralph, etc.)

Thunderbolt
08-05-2006, 02:33 PM
No need to split hairs, AND TYPING IN CAPS DOES NOT MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO LISTEN TO YOU.

Officially, they are different characters, but there are better characters to choose from the Zelda universe(Ganondorf w/sword, Vaati, Ralph, etc.)
Mind telling me who that was directed towards? You just typed in Caps so don't get butt hurt.

I'd like to see Vaati in Brawl. And Ganon with a sword. But Ralph would be stupid due to the fact that he was 1 game. And he looks stupid.

Marshy
08-05-2006, 02:39 PM
I'd like to see Vaati in Brawl. And Ganon with a sword. But Ralph would be stupid due to the fact that he was 1 game. And he looks stupid.

Good, Skull Kid should be in over him too. They're not going to add that many from the LoZ franchise,(because they already have the main 3 characters) so they shouldn't add another variation of Link.

Mind telling me who that was directed towards? You just typed in Caps so don't get butt hurt.


Yeah, that was kind of the point.

BIRDMAN22
08-05-2006, 02:40 PM
Your starting to act like you never played a Zelda game. Every Zelda game is a different story. NO LINK IS THE SAME. (except Adult Link and Young Link from OoT)

The Link from Twilight Princess and the Link from Ocarina of Time are two completly different boys. If you acually payed attention to the story lines in the games then you would know. Just because the wear green and have blonde hair, DOES NOT make them the same. The Twilight Princess story takes place 10 Years after the Orcarina of Time.
You say the TP story line took place 10 years after Oot. So you're telling me that during the TP timeline there is another Link and another Zelda.

My point is LoZ games are all different stories featuring the same character. There not continuations. They never speak of a Link from many years before (not sure about WW) or talk about the fact that they are almost reliving the same plot line. Zelda games remind me of FF games in the sense that each game is a new, unrelated story. The difference is that they keep the same characters.

Hell, maybe your right. Maybe the fourth smash game will have 12 different Links and 8 Different Ganons. There different so they should all be allowed in right??? (more sarcasm)

Final note: If it's only ten years later, wouldn't it be a continuation. You said that Tp and Oot links are different yet only have a 10 year gap in timelines. Under your observation, that means there will be 2 Links, around the same age, at the same time with 2 Zeldas