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Needle of Juntah
03-16-2007, 07:26 PM
i think IC's should be bumped up since we arent doing anythig about the grab infinate, esp since thers like 5 other infinates u can do also.

pdk
03-17-2007, 02:23 AM
only one or two slots at most for them, you gotta consider that increased awareness of wobbles infinite = increased efforts to separate popo/nana early on in a match, and lord knows it's hard enough already for IC players to keep them together (plus if i recall wobbling doesn't really work at low %s so people would begin to realize that it's basically safe to make a mad dash for nana at the start of a match/after a respawn)

tarheeljks
03-17-2007, 03:41 AM
i don't even think they could go further than one spot; c. falcon is the only character they could legitimately be ranked above.

sigma
03-17-2007, 05:12 AM
LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so this is basically a list that show what characters have been exploited into godlyness?

StripesOrBars
03-17-2007, 11:29 AM
The tier list is fine the way it is.

Maybe Shiek and Marth need to move up into Top with Fox and Falco and have Peach, Falcon and ICs move into thier own tier.

NJzFinest
03-17-2007, 12:09 PM
ooohhh, I remember this thread!

Glad to see not that many people making stupid remarks about who should be where (stupid as in I remember someone saying C.Falcon should be lower and Roy should be Mid).

Aesir
03-17-2007, 12:29 PM
^ Where the hell hav eyou been? =(

tarheeljks
03-17-2007, 03:47 PM
i like stripes' idea.

StripesOrBars
03-17-2007, 07:21 PM
Dear God I need to change my account name to something people will actually read and understand.

Falco&Victory
03-17-2007, 11:37 PM
So all the Mewtwo fanatics have stopped complaining? Won't stop me...

M2 seriously needs to be boosted above Pichu. Anyone who's played both in a tourny will tell you M2 is way more annoying. Is this argument still up for discussion, or was there too much flaming before?

tarheeljks
03-18-2007, 12:51 AM
what would you prefer that i call you?

NJzFinest
03-18-2007, 12:16 PM
^ Where the hell hav eyou been? =(
Instead of going on smashboards and DC++, I've been going on breakdancing forums and facebook >.>

Aesir
03-18-2007, 12:36 PM
You can do that **** here, play sheik bam breakdance all you want!

NJzFinest
03-18-2007, 01:05 PM
hahaha, true true. Dsmash FTW

KevinM
03-18-2007, 01:11 PM
Instead of going on smashboards and DC++, I've been going on breakdancing forums and facebook >.>

haha that was the best comment ever..

As for the IC's i disagree with only moving them up a few spots because even without the infinite their grabs and smashes are still good, and popo can still hang in their on his own with shffl'd bairs and wavesmashes...

Aesir
03-18-2007, 02:07 PM
just don't get grabbed lawl.

Pariah
03-18-2007, 02:17 PM
Kirby should be up higher.
His Jiggly Copy is basically condensed awesome edgeguard.

Rapid_Assassin
03-18-2007, 02:57 PM
Kirby should be up higher.
His Jiggly Copy is basically condensed awesome edgeguard.

Yeah, good luck edgeguarding Jigglypuff though, with that or any other Kirby attack. :chuckle:

red stone
03-19-2007, 05:30 PM
i find it funny that sheik, a sub character, used to be at the top. that's just sad that a character not even at the character select screen was the best.

NJzFinest
03-19-2007, 06:37 PM
How is that sad lol? Literally Sheik is since she is Zelda :p

Then again, I think it's better to think of it this way: She is a character that is so good...she had to be kept hidden from the character select screen >.>

Aesir
03-19-2007, 08:30 PM
or to gay that the other cast members signed a petition to remover her from the character select screen.

pdk
03-19-2007, 08:39 PM
Kirby should be up higher.
His Jiggly Copy is basically condensed awesome edgeguard.

yes, it's totally awesome edgeguarding against THE LEGENDARY UN-EDGEGUARDABLE BEAST OF SSBMLAND

Smooth_One
03-19-2007, 08:40 PM
Sheik will never be as gay as Peach.

Giggidax
03-19-2007, 08:40 PM
i like aesir's idea better. it makes more sense O_O lol! shiek players dont take this too serious

edit: nvm people posted before i could under aesir. making me look like im crazy and dont know wat im talking about

*ahem* shiek is gayer than peach *walks off*

FalconFlames
03-29-2007, 01:40 PM
I don't care about any peach or sheik
they're both gay

Bloshi
04-02-2007, 02:50 PM
I know I'm speaking from a biased viewpoint, but why is Yoshi lower than Roy? Yoshi beats the tar out of Roy, just because he can double jump and crouch cancel every singles one of Roy's attacks, except for the difficult-to-land sweet spotted fsmash. Not to mention the fact that every time Yoshi lands a bair or a fair its a super-huge combo on Roy. However, Yoshi has a hard time with both Link and Luigi,so maybe he just counters Roy or something. Yoshi is even with a good DK, slightly advantaged against Pikachu, and slightly disadvantaged against Young Link. I don't know if he should be higher or not, maybe we just need more Yoshis out there to prove his worth.

Dylan_Tnga
04-02-2007, 04:59 PM
I don't care about any peach or sheik
they're both gay

Nah, they're not. ;) ... Really.

L5LM_Gtlink
04-03-2007, 04:04 PM
ok, im a noob to the whole tourney scene and no way im reading through this entire thread to find my answer so I'll just ask it here.

In low tier tourneys, does that mean that you are only allowed to pick low tier characters? Like Fox isn't allowed?

pdk
04-03-2007, 04:08 PM
that's right, skipper

http://www.bobdenver.com/Gilligan_s_Guest_Stars/The_Pilot_Page/Gilligan___the_Girls/Gilligan___the_Skipper/Bob___Alan__2__in_Pilot.JPG

FalconFlames
04-03-2007, 04:25 PM
I think that cheap :p
why is a character illigal in a tournament???

L5LM_Gtlink
04-03-2007, 04:32 PM
Why not just have everyone pick whoever they want? Whats the purpose of low tier tourneys?

Eci4
04-03-2007, 04:37 PM
well, a lot of people get really good with high tier characters... you typically aren't going to see a game and watch win a regular tournament... Low Tier tournaments are typically for fun, and usually cheaper than normal tournies to enter... It's just a way to mix things up, and get people to quit playing the high tiers...

L5LM_Gtlink
04-03-2007, 05:09 PM
I guess if it's just for fun then I ca understand. But I'd prefer it if someone fought against me with their best charcter, regardless of tier

Smooth_One
04-03-2007, 05:21 PM
Yeah normally you would want that, in a regular match. It's fun to play someone who isn't Peach or Falco or whatever once in a while, though.

L5LM_Gtlink
04-03-2007, 06:38 PM
Fighting somone at their best is a great way for me to tell what I personally am lacking skill wise.

pdk
04-03-2007, 06:43 PM
I think that cheap :p
why is a character illigal in a tournament???

they're called low tier tourneys for a reason

REDRAGON
04-25-2007, 07:31 PM
Its strange, i have been reading the past posts and almost everone agress that Marth should be higher....
Check out my sig. Its 100% correct!!!!111!1!!!:chuckle:

REDRAGON

DarkKnight077
04-25-2007, 07:32 PM
Its strange, i have been reading the past posts and almost everone agress that Marth should be higher....
Check out my sig. Its 100% correct!!!!111!1!!!:chuckle:

REDRAGON

Wrong. =/ It's all about...Tournament winnings. Not who does good against who. Your tier list sucks. :laugh:

Banks
04-26-2007, 05:34 AM
fox, falco and sheik rape marth. sure marth can rape them sometimes with certain things, but overall he is a worse character, if you think about matchups with other characters etc

REDRAGON
04-26-2007, 02:31 PM
Everyone is saying: "OmG gUys its AlL about TounaMents placing!!!11!!"

Show me who won the last major tounaments with what charactors.
Show me facts to prove me wroung..........