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mood4food77
08-02-2007, 02:11 AM
RAPTOR HAWK

haven't heard from you in a whlie

i was saying that in my post...then omni yelled at me

cause just based on tournament placement is biased, that just bases it off of our skill with each character

why should marth be number one now when ken was the most dominant marth ever and he was never above 3 (meaning marth)

btw...IKE LOOKS SICK

Emblem Lord
08-02-2007, 02:14 AM
Ike is proof that a pretty boy can be hardcore and look like a total god

56k
08-02-2007, 02:21 AM
Ike is beast.

Just wondering...is there any point in arguing about the tier list when it's set in stone and there's not going to be a new one ever? I mean Melee is coming to a close, pros have retired, etc...

It seems like we just keep going around in an endless loop in this thread :dizzy:

No offense to anyone who frequents this thread, but sometimes I think it would've been better if this thread were closed after the first post.

mood4food77
08-02-2007, 02:33 AM
i do too

but that would piss off the mods with the amount of threads being made too...

also, what fun would this be if there was no conflict

BigRick
08-02-2007, 03:04 AM
Ike is beast.

Just wondering...is there any point in arguing about the tier list when it's set in stone and there's not going to be a new one ever? I mean Melee is coming to a close, pros have retired, etc...

It seems like we just keep going around in an endless loop in this thread :dizzy:

No offense to anyone who frequents this thread, but sometimes I think it would've been better if this thread were closed after the first post.

Hell no 56k...

half of my posts are like, in this thread

Thank you! Tier list thread!

56k
08-02-2007, 03:54 AM
XD

I guess this thread is good for allowing people to blow off steam...but this thread seems to follow a pattern that I can't quite place my finger on. I just keep getting deja vu in this thread every few months...

Rapid_Assassin
08-02-2007, 08:35 AM
That's because people have nothing to talk about aside from repeating what is already said. Which means they should do something, like find someone to play... :)

HeadISBAgent
08-02-2007, 09:19 AM
Or they're at work and have nothing better to do :P

slikvik
08-02-2007, 09:50 AM
yup, im at work right now and have nothing better to do since they block all the good sites

pkmvodka
08-02-2007, 10:21 AM
No love for the monkey :(

StripesOrBars
08-02-2007, 04:59 PM
Slow down before you post, Mood. If you looked at the Top 25 placings for just FC and OC3 alone, you'll have noticed there were no Ganondorfs. Even if there were a Ganondorf, it would most likely only be 1, and ChuDat's Ice Climbers still take the cake over that.

And yes, Ganon would go under Samus because of players like Hugs and Phanna placing well over the recent months in their regions. There hasn't been any serious expansion with Ganondorf in singles play for a while, and the only real hype coming from Ganondorf was Linguini's performance during a crew battle.

LOL @ Phana.

No offense Phanna, but you're not good.

Florida trash talk.

But seriously, he's not.

90% of the GameFAQs SSBM board plays Smash just like the rest of us here at SWF, but they just make a lot of silly posts and joke around a lot. That's just the general nature of GameFAQs. A lot of them play competitive smash and post on Smashboards, and they are quick to shut down any scrub that makes a "Wavedashing is an exploit and I hate all the morons who use it" thread (or "topic" on GF).

I can tell 100% that you are a gamefaqers.

mood4food77
08-02-2007, 05:17 PM
omni is phanna.....wow

never saw that coming

DarkKnight077
08-02-2007, 05:35 PM
Slient Wolf>>>Phanna? >>; Nuff's said? (Taking a wild guess..)

56k
08-02-2007, 05:55 PM
I can tell 100% that you are a gamefaqers.

I can tell 100% that your IQ is less than 60.

Cort
08-02-2007, 05:58 PM
I'm a GameFAQer.

So is Isai.

And Mew2King.

And g-reg.

And KM.

And gimpyfish.

...

mood4food77
08-02-2007, 05:59 PM
i used to be....

WoZ is one too, and he's a mod here

Cort
08-02-2007, 06:00 PM
i used to be....

That's good.

g-regulate
08-02-2007, 06:04 PM
id say gamefaqs is just about on par with melee discussion in terms of stupidity

Mew2King
08-02-2007, 06:06 PM
marth vs fox is the most even matchup ever

Oskurito
08-02-2007, 06:22 PM
When is this going to be updated? I mean the 2007-2008 tier list...

56k
08-02-2007, 06:50 PM
I don't think it ever will.

mood4food77
08-02-2007, 06:58 PM
i hear that it will just one more time like right before the brawl release

BigRick
08-02-2007, 07:20 PM
i hear that it will just one more time like right before the brawl release

would be nice... a FINAL tier list

superryan
08-02-2007, 07:40 PM
Why don't we all just listen to Cort instead since he actually knows what he's talking about.

mood4food77
08-02-2007, 07:42 PM
as of recently...what have any of us said that partained to the topic...

StripesOrBars
08-02-2007, 07:45 PM
I can tell 100% that your IQ is less than 60.

LOL.

Nice, insult my intellegence.

That's the easy way out.

GayFaqers.

InfernoOmni
08-02-2007, 07:48 PM
marth vs fox is the most even matchup ever

jason you've got a different opinion on that match-up at least once a month.

and yeah, for some reason phanna came to mind because of his/her vid and i think because he has a red name and because yeah, w/e.

and i realized that this topic isn't going to go anywhere even if i come in and rape with logic and stats so before i go:

marth, fox, falco, sheik, peach. those are the top 5 on the tier list in order and if u disagree, you're bad at melee and/or understanding exactly what a tier list is

BigRick
08-02-2007, 07:57 PM
actually its not the first time that M2K makes that post

Aesir
08-02-2007, 07:58 PM
M2k has been saying this for who knows how long. >_>

mood4food77
08-02-2007, 08:00 PM
i've been saying that too

but i get yelled at half the time

who cares about mood4food

XD

Pat/Pro
08-02-2007, 10:24 PM
M2k just says that because he plays marth. Im sorry to say this but your wrong. Marth players all claim that the matchup is even because they dont want to people to think that they beat fox's because they have an advantage. If he really believed that and fox had no counters he would play fox because he would want the best chance of winning. If pros really thought that marth vs fox was even and they all say that at their level that shiek vs marth is basically even too then why even use shiek in the first place? How on earth could m2k say that shiek is the best character in the game if he has a minimum of 2 counters whereas fox would have 0. If these people used just fox they would say that marth is the best, if they used marth they would say shiek is the best, and if they used shiek they would say fox is the best. In a game as complicated as smash there is no possibility for an even matchup. Someone however small must have an advantage and if someone were to tell me that advantage went to fox in this matchup I would immediately stop speaking to them.

There are some levels in which the matchup is close to even but on some levels like FD marth has an advantage that is undeniable. One mistake against marth can result in the loss of stock and unless the marth is stupid enough to get shine spiked somehow the reverse isnt true. Dont give me this bull**** about me just not knowing the matchup well enough or whatever you marths can pull out of your *** to prove me wrong. I know it, I play and study the game just as much as you do, im as smart or smarter than you, stop this conversation. I would love for just one marth to come in and tell me at the very least that there is a slight advantage to marth. Sorry but the matchup isnt even. End of story.

ZoSo
08-02-2007, 10:37 PM
M2k just says that because he plays marth. Im sorry to say this but your wrong. Marth players all claim that the matchup is even because they dont want to people to think that they beat fox's because they have an advantage. If he really believed that and fox had no counters he would play fox because he would want the best chance of winning. If pros really thought that marth vs fox was even and they all say that at their level that shiek vs marth is basically even too then why even use shiek in the first place? How on earth could m2k say that shiek is the best character in the game if he has a minimum of 2 counters whereas fox would have 0. If these people used just fox they would say that marth is the best, if they used marth they would say shiek is the best, and if they used shiek they would say fox is the best. In a game as complicated as smash there is no possibility for an even matchup. Someone however small must have an advantage and if someone were to tell me that advantage went to fox in this matchup I would immediately stop speaking to them.

There are some levels in which the matchup is close to even but on some levels like FD marth has an advantage that is undeniable. One mistake against marth can result in the loss of stock and unless the marth is stupid enough to get shine spiked somehow the reverse isnt true. Dont give me this bull**** about me just not knowing the matchup well enough or whatever you marths can pull out of your *** to prove me wrong. I know it, I play and study the game just as much as you do, im as smart or smarter than you, stop this conversation. Sorry but the matchup isnt even. End of story.
Just stop.

StripesOrBars
08-02-2007, 10:42 PM
Marth/Fox is even on some stages and Marth wins on the rest.

Shiek players try to make Marth look like he's the best(which he really is) because they don't want people to make fun of them for playing the easiest character in the game.

Smilez
08-02-2007, 10:43 PM
I feel that Marth should be top-tier.
Ken dominated smash w/ Marth for years.
Mew2King switches his main to Marth and all of a sudden he's un-stoppable. Don't get me wrong he was nice before but since the switch he's been out of control(in a good way).

Technically:
Marth's range is ridiculous.
Not to mention that if you almost miss w/ a F-Smash(tipper) you get rewarded w/ crazy knock-back and sick damage.
Oh a lets just include his grab range.(He can grab your girls booty from the concession stand while you two are watching "Knocked Up")
He has decent speed considering that he barely needs to move to deal out some serious damage.
Recovery is really good also.


Don't get me wrong. Fox is my main he's got buuku(alot) power, speed, and versatility but I still think Marth is a couple steps up the ladder. Well thats just my opinion.

Emblem Lord
08-02-2007, 10:44 PM
I coulda sworn I already said Marth has slight advantage in that match up. >_>

Randizzle
08-02-2007, 10:58 PM
interestingly, i think that marth has a slight advantage whereas my friend who's a fox main say's it's about even.

Pat/Pro
08-02-2007, 11:08 PM
I blame zoso for making me rant about this and telling me that fox is cheap. All evil things lead back to a CF player.

REDRAGON
08-02-2007, 11:18 PM
Yeah, people already know that the Marth vs Fox is even with the stages giving marth the advantage on some.........
reeeeeepeatttt



Redragon

Pat/Pro
08-02-2007, 11:20 PM
yeah which is why i dont see how people can say the matchup is even. <---last thing im going to say about it because arguing is pointless

numberonenacho
08-02-2007, 11:25 PM
no match ups are even unless its a ditto. someone has an advantage or disadvantage.
even if its slight.