View Full Version : The 2006-2008 Tier list
NJzFinest
08-28-2007, 01:13 AM
"Peach doesn't do too bad vs Sheik and beats Falco."
That made me lol
KevinM
08-28-2007, 01:19 AM
Do people get minus points if I blatantly disagree with them without providing any reason?
If so, I blatantly disagree with everyone except Brookman.
*high fives all around*
Now what happens if some of the people you disagreed with agreed with Brookman.. now what happens?
Brookman
08-28-2007, 01:19 AM
quoted for truth
Quoted for stupid
"Peach doesn't do too bad vs Sheik and beats Falco."
That made me lol
I lol'd too, but I didn't feel like saying anything about it. Glad someone agrees though. I think I'm up to 15 points now.
Now what happens if some of the people you disagreed with agreed with Brookman.. now what happens?
They don't matter, cause they're just my yes men. No one else has a mind other than to agree/disagree with me for no reason.
Gustav Wind
08-28-2007, 01:19 AM
If only peach traded in her dress and heels for a pair of running shoes and gym shorts. Yes, she would be topless.
Wouldn't she lose her godly downsmash, though?
Brookman
08-28-2007, 01:35 AM
Her downsmash is powerful because of her ******. It's a lot like a klaptrap, but much bigger and more powerful. It's simple math really:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/60/Klampon.jpg/180px-Klampon.jpg+http://mariofusion.free.fr/images/star-musee/peach/peach_mario-party-3.jpg
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http://geriandricky.maxwells.net.nz/wp-content/photos/USA__2000_07_29__TombStone__KingsChapelCemetryBost on___29July_.jpg
max32090
08-28-2007, 01:35 AM
uhhhh ok brookman lol
LOL @ Brookman's peach explanation. I think peach gets beaten by all of the people above her in tiers pretty badly as well as by most characters that can out spam her. If you have the patience to avoid peach and you have a projectile you can just get her past good CC damage and the fight is all but over. Peach is fine at 5th but I am wondering if Falcon has better match ups overall? Although good peaches are frightening (especially to me maining ICs).
If the tier list was ordered solely by the largest tournament results then IC would be 3rd? cause of Chu, what people don't realize is the top 3 people are the best smashers in the world and the characters they play dont effect them nearly as much as someone less skilled. PC has insanely good tricks and Fox's fast movement helps him do this, M2K just never misses when he attacks so the range suits him. Chu is just retardedly unpredictable and his Nana is controlled by Chuck Norris.
The tier list is fine the way it is except I beleive Marth consistently places higher than Shieks and Falcos and that those characters could be moved a little bit, however ranking within tiers is largely irrelivant, Fox has like 1 bad match up, Marth has 1 bad match up, Shiek has 1 bad match up for the most part those characters are even, they triangularly counter eachother so who is to say who the best character is?
Falcon sucks. No johns.
Also, this is the best thread ever as of recently.
coolhat
08-28-2007, 03:23 PM
luigi and dk for ganon and marios spot
StripesOrBars
08-28-2007, 08:10 PM
So far EL has 1 supporter, that makes his point more valid. By point I of course mean spam. spam spam spam spam.
If you're going to ****ing post what you think at least have the decency to post why you think so. Otherwise we just have everyone running around posting like doodah, and then nothing actually gets discussed.
Shiek does better in tournies.
Happy?
1: PC Chris
2: Mew2King
3: Chu_Dat
4: SephirothKen
5: Drephen Shiek
5: The King
7: Vidjogamer
7: SilentWolf
9: PKMVodka
9: Hugs
9: Forward Falco
9: Falcomist
13: Aesis
13: EdreesesPieces
13: Wobbles the Phoenix
13: Cactuar
17: ShadowBTZO
17: Lucky
17: SilentSpectre
17: SK-92
17: Bombsolider Falco
17: Taj
17: Tang
17: LuninSpectra
25: Mango
25: Zelgadis
25: Lunaris
25: Chesterr01
25: xxx-Noobking-xxx
25: DJ Combo
25: Isai
25: The Germ Falco
1st Mew2king $2000
2nd PC Chris $1000
3rd Chu Dat $500
4th Drephen $350 Shiek
5th Vidjo $225
5th Taj $225
7th Darkrain $125
7th Dashizwiz $125 Falco
9. Lambchops Falco
9. Chillindude
9. Luigi Ka-Master
9. Cort
13. SilentWolf
13. CunningKitsune
13. Tink
13. Mikey Lenetia
17. Nite Falco
17. Plairnkk Shiek
17. Mathos Falco
17. Chesterr01
17. KeepSpeedN
17. Dope Falco
17. Eggz
17. 4% APR
25. KishPrime
25. Lunaris
25. Col Bol
25. Jiano
25. Forward Falco
25. Doll
25. Vwins
25. BigGman
The only Shiek that places higher is Drephen.
N00bs.
Emblem Lord
08-28-2007, 10:34 PM
Still Shiek though.
This is only shows Falco's limitations imo. He can't quite hack it at the top level.
I like how Doodah factually proves himself wrong and then continues to believe Falco is better (after calling everyone a "N00b")
:grin:
SPAWN
08-28-2007, 10:41 PM
Lol.
13: Aesis I'm pretty sure he's a Sheik main too. >_>
Aesir
08-28-2007, 10:54 PM
Aesis does main sheik.
I love doodah he makes me feel smart.
Pat/Pro
08-28-2007, 11:49 PM
Dont forget aesis those placings are off because dj hasnt been going to tournies. He did win an mlg this year as shiek and a falco has yet to win one.
Falco&Victory
08-29-2007, 12:46 AM
Sheik is awesome, she has almost twice as many moves as any other character, and she's a ninja, so she rolls +4 on awesomeness
I hate sheik players, but Marth will always be there as the one broken character everyone fears
I think Marth is top tier now
Sheik has twice as many moves as any other character.
o_o
KevinM
08-29-2007, 03:59 AM
Cort play me at esticle
My sheik has 3 times as many moves
Brookman
08-29-2007, 07:41 AM
If we're going to base placement just off of tournament results for the purposes of our discussion then we might as well look at results for the rest of the characters. Does player skill have anything to do with this too? I mean, look at the falco players, and then look at Drephen...Then look back at the falco players, then BACK AT DREPHEN. Does anyone get what I'm saying?
I've always thought basing the tier list on tournament results was kind of stupid, personally.
Everyone should refuse to play any character except for Kirby in tournaments from now on.
Ignatius
08-29-2007, 09:56 AM
I've come to the conclusion, being a Peach player, that Peach has absolutely no good matchups and gets raped horribly by basically everyone around her.
edit// Except Ice Climbers.
Welcome to what I've been saying for the last year and a half.
Everyone should refuse to play any character except for Kirby in tournaments from now on.
I did last tourney, and my level 9 Gannon/Luigi froed everyone in teams.
I've never actually thought about it until recently, and it was kind of depressing.
Brookman
08-29-2007, 10:13 AM
those placings are off because dj hasnt been going to tournies.
What has that got to do with tournament results? They WOULD be different if DJ HAD gone to them, but he didn't, so it doesn't matter where he would have placed. Just because someone doesn't go to a tournament doesn't mean that the results are skewed, even if the person not going is of dan's calibur. Let's not forget that ken and all the other good WC players are missing. So I guess that means even if dan had gone the results would still be off, mirite?
APImagine
08-29-2007, 10:19 AM
What do you mean, "missing"?
Brookman
08-29-2007, 10:25 AM
What do you mean, "missing"?
They were missing from the tournaments, so by Pat's logic the results are inconclusive?
APImagine
08-29-2007, 10:36 AM
Has anyone had ANY contact with Ken or the WC dudes since?
Brookman
08-29-2007, 10:39 AM
Evo World, this passed weekend?
CogSmooch
08-29-2007, 11:42 AM
http://geriandricky.maxwells.net.nz/wp-content/photos/USA__2000_07_29__TombStone__KingsChapelCemetryBost on___29July_.jpg
OKAY is it weird that I know exactly where this tombstone is and have touched it before?
APImagine
08-29-2007, 01:03 PM
Knowing where it is isn't weird, but why did you touch it? O_o
Emblem Lord
08-29-2007, 01:11 PM
Always said that SWF should have two tier list.
One based on how well a character will do at a tourney based on tourney results themselves. And the other based on potential. Street Fighter: 3S has this set up for thier lists.
APImagine
08-29-2007, 01:15 PM
Always said that SWF should have two tier list.
One based on how well a chracter will do at a tourney based on tourney results themselves. And the other based on potential. Street Fighter: 3S has this set up for thier lists.
Good idea.
Brookman
08-29-2007, 01:20 PM
We should also have a player tier list.
Emblem Lord
08-29-2007, 01:22 PM
http://shoryuken.com/wiki/index.php/Street_Fighter_3:_3rd_Strike
Check out that link and scroll down to the tiers to see what I mean.
Brookman
08-29-2007, 01:24 PM
I love how simple they make it:
http://shoryuken.com/wiki/index.php/Street_Fighter_3:_3rd_Strike
I've already read through some other SF wiki's and thought the same thing, and why can't smashers put it so simply and beautifully?
Emblem Lord
08-29-2007, 01:28 PM
Because the guys at SRK have been playing since they were 14 and now the are all in thier mid 20's.
People here have no concept of other fighters and think they know it all but they don't. And the average player here is in their mid to late teens.
SRKers have more exp points.
APImagine
08-29-2007, 01:30 PM
I love how simple they make it:
http://shoryuken.com/wiki/index.php/Street_Fighter_3:_3rd_Strike
I've already read through some other SF wiki's and thought the same thing, and why can't smashers put it so simply and beautifully?
I would think that that quote would just need to be paraphrased a bit, and it should apply to most fighting games, including Smash, right?
I mean, bottom line, it's such basic logic.
Brookman
08-29-2007, 01:58 PM
SRKers have more exp points.
I guess that's what it comes down to.
I would think that that quote would just need to be paraphrased a bit, and it should apply to most fighting games, including Smash, right?
I mean, bottom line, it's such basic logic.
Word.
Falco&Victory
08-29-2007, 03:59 PM
Everyone should know, tiers don't exist. Any character can beat any character
Jk, but does anyone else think it's unfair that Ken is training to be the best bowser? He's already better than Arash and Caotic. I mean, the best player ever can NOT also be the best Bowser
Falco&Victory
08-29-2007, 04:00 PM
Sorry for double post, laggy computer right now
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