View Full Version : The 2006-2008 Tier list
MeleeUltimate
08-30-2007, 05:06 PM
At least validate your claim and not just slag my idea off.
Oskurito
08-30-2007, 05:18 PM
falco sux without pillar and shl...shl reminds me of mathos ftw!!!
school post oskurito, i'm in my tech class, i will talk to you at like 5pm;)
lol don't use swf for personal matters. I'll prolly be until 6pm
Emblem Lord
08-30-2007, 05:23 PM
MeleeUltimate: Your idea won't work because cpu's don't use characters to thier full potential or use the high level tactics and strats.
A tier list is based on play when characters are used to the limit of human abilities and the best strats, attacks, moves, combos and set-ups are used.
That and cpu's are stupid and do stupid things. Especially cpu's in SSBM. They are some of the dumbest A.I you will ever come across. A.I in other fighters is actually good. Like A.I in Street Fighter has always been pretty good.
At least validate your claim and not just slag my idea off.
Are you serious? You mean that thing where you let the computers fight and determine the tier list? It's a terrible idea. I thought that was a joke. Isn't it obvious how inaccurate that would be? I don't even feel like going into detail.
Are you serious? You mean that thing where you let the computers fight and determine the tier list? It's a terrible idea. I thought that was a joke. Isn't it obvious how inaccurate that would be? I don't even feel like going into detail.
Lol I thought it was a joke too.
Anyways though the tier list is close to perfect the way it is. What is doesnt take into account though is that not alot of people play DK and such, DK is actually a better character than the tier list gives him credit for but there are so few people that use him he cant really do well in tournies.
Better, original, lucky, whatever you want to call them, players will win more often than not and with whatever character suits their style. I agree that certain characters are better than others, but also realize that certain "worse" characters can have some better Match-Ups. Take a look at how well Ganon has been doing lately, its a lot more the player than his advantages in Match ups.
Take Bowser vs Shiek, this Match is nigh unwinable for Bowser because shiek can chaingrab soooo easily, but I am sure Gimpy has beaten his share of sheiks.
MR.WIGZ
08-30-2007, 09:53 PM
anyone know where i could get a team tier list
brawlpro
08-30-2007, 09:54 PM
i don't, is there really one?!?
mario-man
08-30-2007, 10:19 PM
I may be all alone in this oppinion, but how the crap is Peach so high on the list. IMO there are more than 4-5 chars that are better than her.
brawlpro
08-30-2007, 10:22 PM
peach can rape fox...and fox is top tier...
mario-man
08-30-2007, 10:23 PM
That just means that Peach has a good matchup vs Fox. She still sucks pretty badly.
brawlpro
08-30-2007, 10:28 PM
and fox has a good match up nearly against everyone other than peach...
peach can also kill falco...and marth at times...
Smash G 0 D
08-30-2007, 10:30 PM
Fox can own Peach with... mindgames! Seriously, shines > Peach. Basically equivalent to Dsmash except you need more timing and tech skill. A lot more timing and tech skill. Use Marth vs Peach. Good day
mario-man
08-30-2007, 10:32 PM
Sooooo......my point is being proven??
brawlpro
08-30-2007, 10:34 PM
peach can chainthrow fox, and ruin fox's uair by its nair, so no uthrow>uair.
mario-man
08-30-2007, 10:39 PM
I meant the fact that Peach should be lower in the tiers.
whatwhatwhatwhatwhat
08-30-2007, 10:41 PM
You think 4-5 characters are better than Peach. Peach is lower than four characters on the current tier list.
Who is this mysterious 5th character?
mario-man
08-30-2007, 10:44 PM
I said MORE than 4-5. For one, in the right hands, Mario is better than Peach. ex. Eggz, mario-man, -PM-, Silv, etc...
whatwhatwhatwhatwhat
08-30-2007, 10:46 PM
lolz.
Ok, nevermind then. I'm not gonna touch that.
-Darc-
08-30-2007, 10:55 PM
lolz.
Ok, nevermind then. I'm not gonna touch that.
My thoughts exactly.
lolz.
Ok, nevermind then. I'm not gonna touch that.
My thoughts exactly.
MR.WIGZ
08-30-2007, 11:52 PM
lolz.
Ok, nevermind then. I'm not gonna touch that.
My thoughts exactly.
Ankoku
08-30-2007, 11:54 PM
*breaks Maine Train*
mario-man
08-30-2007, 11:54 PM
This is getting wierd......
brawlpro
08-31-2007, 12:00 AM
This is getting wierd......
my thoughts exactly...
Falco&Victory
08-31-2007, 12:03 AM
lolz.
Ok, nevermind then. I'm not gonna touch that.
My thoughts exactly
And ankoku u suck
brawlpro
08-31-2007, 12:11 AM
And ankoku u suck
My thoughts exactly...
PSYCHE!!!
KevinM
08-31-2007, 01:03 AM
Mario-man
Stop ****ing posting
seriously stop ****ing posting
Mario Man, don't listen to him, you're very entertaining. I suggest saying more about how little you know about the game.
Emblem Lord
08-31-2007, 02:14 AM
mario-man: Peach is a monster and has a fat butt.
What's not to love?
max32090
08-31-2007, 02:16 AM
mario man shut up
Falco&Victory
08-31-2007, 02:46 AM
Mario-man
Stop ****ing posting
seriously stop ****ing posting
Every time you post i could swear my IQ raises
and seriously, stop ****ing posting
HyugaRicdeau
08-31-2007, 07:08 AM
I think you're taking the discussion a bit TOO seriously. We don't decide the tier list, we just come here to banter about it, and we don't really need a 'well-defined framework' to just discuss. I don't really think anyone claimed that their opinions on the tier list had any merit to begin with, and no one said that 'meta game based' tier lists were worthless either.
Too seriously? Probably, but I just wanted to make the point that it's easy to selectively interpret tourney results to suit one's opinion while still looking like one is just talking about facts, and I wanted to give a complete explanation of it.
KevinM
08-31-2007, 12:32 PM
Every time you post i could swear my IQ raises
and seriously, stop ****ing posting
<3 F&V
I love bringin the IQ levels
Aww Yeaa
trademark0013
08-31-2007, 01:05 PM
I meant the fact that Peach should be lower in the tiers.
lmao. what?
KevinM: MM tomorrow?
KevinM
08-31-2007, 02:33 PM
Depends on how much M i have ;)
Falco&Victory
08-31-2007, 02:41 PM
I want to MM somebody....
Hey, Mario Man, I have a deal. You use Ganondorf or mario, and I'll use Peach ; )
g-regulate
08-31-2007, 03:29 PM
remember a couple posts i made in this thread that ultimately destroyed any intelligent discussion in this thread due to my brilliant logic? i guess you guys missed those.
Emblem Lord
08-31-2007, 03:35 PM
lol.
I also remember once that you said that CF vs Fox or Falco is a hard match-up for CF. I think your words were "butt f*ck rape".
Contradictory much?
lolz. Characters will always have advantages or disadvantages no matter how comfortable someone is with a match-up. To say other wise is just foolishness.
brawlpro
08-31-2007, 03:40 PM
wow, first time i heard that it would be foolish to say other wise emblem!
trademark0013
08-31-2007, 03:46 PM
Depends on how much M i have ;)
well, then jus play me w/o sandbagging :)
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