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ResidentWaffle
08-28-2006, 02:12 AM
I recently went to a tournament were most charcters were no problem to me but when I faced samus she just teared me apart any advice against samus?

ZeldaFreak0309
08-28-2006, 02:18 AM
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=80972

Some vids of my Fox vs my friend's Samus.

Uthrow - uair doesn't work, you'll get sex kicked in the face.
Nair goes through missiles
Keeping the pressure on him is probably the most important thing, don't give him breathing space

xeno
08-28-2006, 02:20 AM
shine the charge shot. always.
which techniques/combos were giving you the most problems? missile spam? charge shots? screw attack?

RaynEX
08-28-2006, 02:42 AM
Fox...if used aggressively. Is much too fast for even a decent Samus player to handle. Personally. These tactics work best for me.

1. Don't WS grab. WS to nairs. At about 25%...you can string together something like 4-5 nairs and full hop the last one. Just follow the DI and Shffl correctly. Shes so floaty she'll sort of bounce into each of your nairs.

2. For the kill, at about 90+%, I suggest jab to usmash. I most ALWAYS kill Samus' that way. They only way to avoid it is if they DI the jab. The rest is up to you. Though the chances of them DIing are reeelly slim, be wary. This technique comes in handy though. im telling you.

3 .If they like using missle cancelling techniques. You should try to SH in their face and reflect. Even if they cancel the lag from their landing won't give them enough time to block the reflected MIssile. I've obtained many a kill by just watching them fall and running in to point-blank-reflect their missiles. Use this tactic as well.

4. Don't shine kill unless your proficient at it. The grapple and bombs make Samus a w.h.o.r.e. to kill. So I suggest shining them off. Then ledgeguarding with a dsmash or something.


Hope that helps. I got those tips from a couple of Samus pros that admit those are some of the trickiest things about playing a Fox.

Good luck man.

FalseFalco
08-28-2006, 02:51 AM
Down tilts, upsmashes, sex kicks, back airs all are too much for samus.

When you're below her you should only be touching the ground for a second before you're back up there trying to tack an up air. If you get stuffed by a bomb just go for it again and again until you land it.

Fulljumping into samus head and shining usually causes a spot dodge, if you doublejump and fastfall into an aerial it usually lands. Somehow, big inefficient jumping stuff fastfalled into an aerial near the ground ALWAYS hits samus. Works for me anyway...

You want to avoid drill kicks as much as possible and stay below samus. Try to get her in the air by shielding or laser spamming. Remember that missles are a common ploy to get you in the air.

Shield-> wavedash does wonders against her smashes.

Don't sweetspot illusion and try to come from below when returning. Ledgehop illusion is always good.

Don't pick dream land >_>.

Silent Wolf
08-28-2006, 06:05 AM
Waveshine usmash.
Counter Green Greens. ^_^