Does Ken take the title as best Fox in America?

[JCrest87]

Ken definatly takes the place as best Marth, probrably not best Ganon. But his Fox is amazing, theres a buncha pros out there who use Fox and its hard to debate weather or not whos the best. But Ken's Fox is amazing and many people say his Fox may be on the same skill level as his Marth, what do you guys think? does Ken take the title as Best Marth and Fox? :confused:

[InfiniteGXT]

I doubt Ken is the best Fox. It is very good and up to par with other fox Pros but most likely he would lose an MLG if he used only fox. With guys like Chillin, M2K, and KDJ Id say the spot for best fox in America is up for grabs.

[JCrest87]

I doubt Ken is the best Fox. It is very good and up to par with other fox Pros but most likely he would lose an MLG if he used only fox. With guys like Chillin, M2K, and KDJ Id say the spot for best fox in America is up for grabs.

Ken beat Chillin in Fox dittos and im sure he can do the same to Mew2King and Korean DJ

[InfiniteGXT]

Well I have heard that dittos dont really prove who the better player is. But you may be right.

[JCrest87]

Well I have heard that dittos dont really prove who the better player is. But you may be right.


Im just saying ive seen alot of Fox users, and honestly out of all of them im impressed with Kens because his stand out from the crowd, not only because its diffrent, but because its insanely good.

[roffle]

i dunno about this, ill say he is the best marth, but not the best fox. i dont kno who would take the best fox either, since there r alot of good foxs out there.

[Apocalypse™]

Zelgadis!! I like Isai's fox better than Ken's.

[CStick]

Ken beat Chillin by quite a bit in Fox dittos awhile ago, but with PC, M2k, and KDJ out there, I doubt it.

[THE PAIN]

if ken is the best fox in the usa hes probally the best fox in the world. because masashi i think cant beat chillin or mew2king or some other skilled american foxes. and i think masashi is the best in japan.

[Sars_Pirate]

>_>

Masashi's definitely the best in West Japan since he's been winning all the tourneys there, and Ken has said before that he's a really strong player. He even exaggerated his skill and called him the best player in the world, and he did pick ups some moves from Masashi after JGT. I think that Ken's Fox is better than Chillin's, but not so much against M2K and not sure against KDJ.

[Shade_]

Masashi quite, so I don't know about that.

He is the best in the world but, I am sure it is not because of his fox, I think it is with his Marth or I am pretty sure it is, if it was that good, then he would use him more often.

[nookrulz]

Zelgadis!! I like Isai's fox better than Ken's.

wow. Zelgadis isn't even top 10 fox in America.

[FastFox]

Zelgadis is nothing special.

I'd go with KDJ or Mew2King.

[technomancer]

Ken is the most versatile top tier player, I thinks. He knows his stuff. I don't think he's the best Fox - that title is so up for grabs it's not funny, simply because almost all the pro players either main Fox or carry a perfect technical Fox on standby. Tournament wise, I'd say M2K and KDJ have the best records for Fox mains, with Chillin a close third, and PC, Ken, and Isai hold Fox as excellent seconds.

I take M2K over KDJ most days, but KDJ showed awesome skill at the recent MLG, and apparently has been workin his butt off to pwn more. Both have proven that they have the stuff to take Ken and Isai.

[MC Mike]

Ken is a very good Fox no doubt about that.. But i would have to say that Mew2King is the best Fox. Mostly because M2K's Fox has beat and still can beat PC Chris' Falco. I do not think that Ken's Fox would be able to take out PC's Falco in a set.

[JCrest87]

Ken is a very good Fox no doubt about that.. But i would have to say that Mew2King is the best Fox. Mostly because M2K's Fox has beat and still can beat PC Chris' Falco. I do not think that Ken's Fox would be able to take out PC's Falco in a set.

Really? because i hear PC Chris rapes Mew2king's fox most times, and he lost two sets to PC at FC6?

[Miharu]

Really? because i hear PC Chris rapes Mew2king's fox most times, and he lost two sets to PC at FC6?
That's just one tourney though.

But for best Fox in US, I'd have to say either M2K or KDJ.

[MC Mike]

Im not saying tha Mew2King is better then PC Chris, because he isnt. Im just saying that his Fox CAN be PC's Falco, and Ken's most likely can't.

[JCrest87]

That's just one tourney though.

But for best Fox in US, I'd have to say either M2K or KDJ.

Hmmm, i guess i would hafta see more matched from them myself because from the Youtube matches ive seen. Mew2king and Korean DJ just dont suprise me, Chillin did and Ken beat him, Ken's Fox is just overall amazing IMO and the reason i like his Fox best is because it stands out ffrom other Fox's

[MC Mike]

The reason that his Fox stands out so much from other Fox's is because he uses a different stratagy then other Fox's. He kinda just waits and takes advantage of your mistakes, when other Fox users rely more on there tech skill and not as much mindgames. (Im not saying that Mew2King, Chillin, and KDJ dont use mind games im just saying that, thats all that Ken uses with his Fox).

[JCrest87]

The reason that his Fox stands out so much from other Fox's is because he uses a different stratagy then other Fox's. He kinda just waits and takes advantage of your mistakes, when other Fox users rely more on there tech skill and not as much mindgames. (Im not saying that Mew2King, Chillin, and KDJ dont use mind games im just saying that, thats all that Ken uses with his Fox).

Hmmm, that is a very good point :ohwell:

[Zephy]

I think Ken is the best Fox in the, he really is better than all those guys, i have seen M2K and KDJ but Ken is better IMO

[MC Mike]

His Fox isnt better than M2K's or KDJ's or Chillin's, its just that Ken's Fox is MUCH smarter than theirs.

[johnkim]

chillin himself has said that ken owns the best marth/fox in the states. it's in one of those "who is the best at each character" threads. and that's quite a statement considering chillin's sentiments toward ken.

[MC Mike]

IMO Mew2King is the best Fox in the US, period.

[ChaosKnight]

im sorry but its the mindgames of kens fox that makes it unique.

But IMO there is no best fox out there.....

[h1roshi]

His Fox isnt better than M2K's or KDJ's or Chillin's, its just that Ken's Fox is MUCH smarter than theirs.

well...if there r two different fox players dat have the smae tech skill...but one is smarter...than the smarter one is better....being smarter than ur opponent is one of the biggest factors in determining who is better....and since kens tech skill is near flawless....da fact dat he is also smasrte definitly puts him on the map for the running of best fox...but ive played KDJ...ad he is ridiculously fast....and hey...he did knock ken into losers.....peace

-hiroshi

[InterimOfZeal]

Either KDJ or M2K. I'd lean more towards M2K, though.

[MC Mike]

h1roshi: Your exactly right being smarter is a very big deal, but at the same time you have to look at who has more expieriance with thier char. M2K has more tourny expieriance with Fox than Ken does mostly because Ken uses Marth all the time. But.. i dont know i still think that M2K is the best Fox but you might be right Ken could be the best.. Im just going to say that there the same. :)

[InfernoOmni]

Yes, Ken takes the title as the best Fox in America.

[Bronze]

I would put Ken's fox over M2K.

Thats just from seeing Ken rip through the Coast Crew battle as Fox. And seeing M2K get taken apart by PC about 5 times in a row.

Yeah - I know thats not really much to base anything on. But blame the pure opinion 'What do you think?' Thread and not me :laugh:

[Cort]

Depends on how everyone's playing every day, haha. I'd say PC Chris has the best Fox in the world though, hands down. Even M2K and KDJ can tell you that.

[MC Mike]

What! PC Chris the best Fox in the world, i dont think so. I mean his Falco isnt even the best Falco in the world (BombSoldier), so how does he get the title of best Fox?

[Mr. Matic]

Best singles fox is definitely up for grabs, but if I could pick a teams partner I would without a doubt pick Kishsquared. His awareness in team play is second to none.

[Cort]

What! PC Chris the best Fox in the world, i dont think so. I mean his Falco isnt even the best Falco in the world (BombSoldier), so how does he get the title of best Fox?

Quoted for stupidity.

[Brookman]

lol that was easily the funniest thing I've ever seen. bombsoldier is really nothing compared to PC. and Ken is really the only person better than PC in general. M2K is getting real good real fast though. infact, he is almost as amazing as cort is.

[MC Mike]

Haha yeah i guess that was kind of a stupid statement. But seriously tho PC Chris isnt the best Fox.

[Cort]

Lol, you ran out of any possible credit your posts could ever receive after saying Bombsoldier is better than PC. Hiko (who the Japanese said was JUST as good as Bombsoldier if not better) came to OC2, and PC was beating him fairly easily.

Like I said before, even m2k and KDJ can say PC's fox is better than their own. And Ken's fox isn't exactly compareable to these players.

[JCrest87]

Haha yeah i guess that was kind of a stupid statement. But seriously tho PC Chris isnt the best Fox.

Indeed, PC Isnt the best Fox, Mew2king is a better Fox than PC. I still vote Ken, his Fox is the smartest. But theres sooo many Fox players that its hard to debate really, and nobody will probrably ever know. Although i havent seen any matches Where Ken's Fox losses (but of course i havent seen every match in the world) So I guess we'll never really know, we can only debate :laugh:

[Brookman]

Indeed, PC Isnt the best Fox, Mew2king is a better Fox than PC. I still vote Ken, his Fox is the smartest. But theres sooo many Fox players that its hard to debate really, and nobody will probrably ever know. Although i havent seen any matches Where Ken's Fox losses (but of course i havent seen every match in the world) So I guess we'll never really know, we can only debate

m2k has a more technical fox, but PC's is better in general. and just cause ken is smarter doesn't really mean anything. why do you think ken doesn't play fox alot? cause his fox isn't as amazing as his marth.

m2k and kdj have different styles, but their matches are pretty close, but are both pretty awesome. plus DJ is one of the funniest people I've ever met <3