The Exception.

[smashfan34]

Ok, I made this topic because I am tired of posting on a link topic, that suggests link is useless in tournaments and has a question mark at the end. Once and for all, if the majority of players don't play link that is great. Well, I appreciate all of the top smashers in the world, and other smashers, getting together and putting statistics together on, what characters are used the most in tournaments. That is great, I find it very useful, that is a statistic and a fact and is objective. What is not objective and is subjective, is the fact that if two characters of equal skill, 1 being link and 1 being whoever, the link would lose. That is opinionated and subjective. I just think it's funny that I am actually playing a game and getting threatened and made fun of, because of what character I am choosing. funniest part of this, is I am being told by masahiro, that link sucks, and he plays the best in the world, and names who he plays, but in another link topic, the topic about links miny combos, masahiro mentions himself being a noob link player. Hmmm, so is it just you that sucks with link? Either way, I could care less. I appreciate what Aniki Azen the germ Lord hdl and any other dedicated link players out there. I also see some rising stars, such as stos and blue link, and myself. I suggest in the future, do not discourage link players not to be link. you may be sitting there one day at a tournament, and say (Link sucks), and you may just get your *** handed to you. that day shall come soon enough. I will become an exception, since you guys feel it is impossible to be tourney bound with link.

[SLH]

GLHF. Here's a tissue for when you lose to a Falco player and start crying about it.

[Left Nut]

i know exactly wut u mean..its annoying how they think he wuld suck *** or never be able to place good in a tournament, mainly because of his speed... well one day those people will be proven wrong.
ever since i started playing smash link was my character, and will remain my character, and im fully dedicated to every inch of winning, losing, and being beat, learning til i find ways to get around, or at least put up a **** good fight.. ill be playing smash til the day i die so watch out =P
im not saying ill beat anybody, but i will do my best to prove that link can be a character to look foward to and still be fun to use, while he still has a chance ((even if its slightly)) to kick ***

and SLH... ur funny.. ill be laughing the day u humuliate urself

[SLH]

Oooooh, how clever! You took what I said and changed it around!

You're too optimistic, the both of you. Just accept that Link is where he is on the tier list for a reason; he's bad, and does poorly against the most commonly played characters. All the best Link players accepts this. Everyone else who doesn't stink accepts this. I'm inclined to side with them instead of you.

Besides, never did I say that I was giving up on Link. I have fun playing with him, and I'm sticking with him until the end of my SSBM career.

And don't even dare to say I don't know what I'm talking about. I get plenty of comments on having an excellent Link, from people worse AND better than me. Not to mention the respect I get for just USING him in tournaments.

Don't like what I say? Prove me wrong. Win a well-known tournament using just Link, and I will openly admit that I was wrong, and you were right.

[Left Nut]

ahh i was just bored =P

oh no i never sed he shuld change where he is, or didnt accept where he was on the tier list.. i understand that.. just i think he can be played with and has great potential on almost any match.. its not just about how slow he is or how he can suck against certain characters.. i understand that hes extremely hard to use with people who use sheik and fox.. but at the same time, hes got a chance, depending on how hes used

im not the kind of person to give up just because of disadvantages like this... i will keep playing him and thats that.. if i dont ever win, then hey im glad i tried my best and at least know i put up a fight and can show how good he can really be

[El_LoVo]

Oooooh, how clever! You took what I said and changed it around!

You're too optimistic, the both of you. Just accept that Link is where he is on the tier list for a reason; he's bad, and does poorly against the most commonly played characters. All the best Link players accepts this. Everyone else who doesn't stink accepts this. I'm inclined to side with them instead of you.

Besides, never did I say that I was giving up on Link. I have fun playing with him, and I'm sticking with him until the end of my SSBM career.

And don't even dare to say I don't know what I'm talking about. I get plenty of comments on having an excellent Link, from people worse AND better than me. Not to mention the respect I get for just USING him in tournaments.

Don't like what I say? Prove me wrong. Win a well-known tournament using just Link, and I will openly admit that I was wrong, and you were right.

Well you better start giving some of that respect to the other Link players, it's not like you're the only one that goes all Link in tournaments.

[BrianShepard]

There isn't such a thing as two people on the same skill level. And if there were, it would be a 50/50 chance of winning, just because they're equal. In this game, the best player wins. So, if you're the best player, and you use a Link, then you'll win. Just practice to be the best. That's all...

[Pils]

If you kicked someone's *** with a link, they would cry even more because link is 'sucky'.

There, both sides win.

[Arj]

Ok, I made this topic because I am tired of posting on a link topic, that suggests link is useless in tournaments and has a question mark at the end. Once and for all, if the majority of players don't play link that is great. Well, I appreciate all of the top smashers in the world, and other smashers, getting together and putting statistics together on, what characters are used the most in tournaments. That is great, I find it very useful, that is a statistic and a fact and is objective. What is not objective and is subjective, is the fact that if two characters of equal skill, 1 being link and 1 being whoever, the link would lose. That is opinionated and subjective. I just think it's funny that I am actually playing a game and getting threatened and made fun of, because of what character I am choosing. funniest part of this, is I am being told by masahiro, that link sucks, and he plays the best in the world, and names who he plays, but in another link topic, the topic about links miny combos, masahiro mentions himself being a noob link player. Hmmm, so is it just you that sucks with link? Either way, I could care less. I appreciate what Aniki Azen the germ Lord hdl and any other dedicated link players out there. I also see some rising stars, such as stos and blue link, and myself. I suggest in the future, do not discourage link players not to be link. you may be sitting there one day at a tournament, and say (Link sucks), and you may just get your *** handed to you. that day shall come soon enough. I will become an exception, since you guys feel it is impossible to be tourney bound with link.

Well I don't think anyone should not pick Link because they should be afraid of being made fun of I mean that is just retarded and to make fun of someone or be affected by someone making fun of you is pretty immature. That being said, pick Link if you want to play with him, but if you want to win tournaments and win some money, pick someone else.

[The Basement Dweller]

It the person not the character.

[Arj]

It the person not the character.

Won't believe it till I see Ken or someone else of that level play someone who isn't a tourney winning char(Link, Bowser) and beat someone at the level of P.C Chris, Azen, or Chu Dat.

Until then we're going to just assume that the character does make some what of a difference since one of the better Links in America can get 4 stocked by Isai's Fox, and while the same would probably happen to me, I am not even in the top 100 of the character I play.

[FlipX]

Won't believe it till I see Ken or someone else of that level play someone who isn't a tourney winning char(Link, Bowser) and beat someone at the level of P.C Chris, Azen, or Chu Dat.

Until then we're going to just assume that the character does make some what of a difference since one of the better Links in America can get 4 stocked by Isai's Fox, and while the same would probably happen to me, I am not even in the top 100 of the character I play.

Wow a link player got 4 stocked LINK SUCKS. Not to mention it was isai who did it what a noob -.-. As for a link beating someone good, Aniki beat Ken before...

[BrianShepard]

Won't believe it till I see Ken or someone else of that level play someone who isn't a tourney winning char(Link, Bowser) and beat someone at the level of P.C Chris, Azen, or Chu Dat.

Until then we're going to just assume that the character does make some what of a difference since one of the better Links in America can get 4 stocked by Isai's Fox, and while the same would probably happen to me, I am not even in the top 100 of the character I play.

As FlipX said, Aniki beat Ken. And Isai is good enough to four stock most good players. Who are you talking about that Isai beat, anyways?

[FlipX]

He beat the germ

[SLH]

Well you better start giving some of that respect to the other Link players, it's not like you're the only one that goes all Link in tournaments.

Don't remember saying I was. I'll make this clear; I respect ANYONE who has the guts to use Link and only Link in a tournament. Same goes for any other low tier character. It isn't fun being countered by 70% of the players there.

That doesn't mean I have to agree with their opinions, or think they're good. Honestly, all the boasting people do on the boards just makes you look foolish. Until you prove what you're saying, throught tournaments results or match vids, it's all spouting bull**** to me.

[Arj]

Wow a link player got 4 stocked LINK SUCKS. Not to mention it was isai who did it what a noob -.-. As for a link beating someone good, Aniki beat Ken before...

Lol, you misinterpreted what I said. I was referring to Germ getting 4 stocked by Isai a while ago showing that one of the top American link players couldn't hang with a good players third character (Isai plays C.Falc and Shiek second). Aniki beat Ken in a match.

If one of the top Links couldn't hang with a Fox that isn't top 5, then one reasonable conclusion one can draw is that Link as a character can't hang with Fox and other top characters (IMO the list is Chillin, Ken, PC Chris, m2k, and KDJ). If your arguement is that no great players like the ones listed above play Link, then I guess they must know something that isn't apparent to you.

[superryan]

Aniki beat ken in friendlies

Then ken proceeded to kick the living ****e out of him in tourney, consistent 2-3 stocks each time

[superryan]

wont let me edit

so im not saying aniki is bad or anything but ken ultimately beat him where it counted, friendlies dont mean crap

[FlipX]

Lol, you misinterpreted what I said. I was referring to Germ getting 4 stocked by Isai a while ago showing that one of the top American link players couldn't hang with a good players third character (Isai plays C.Falc and Shiek second). Aniki beat Ken in a match.

If one of the top Links couldn't hang with a Fox that isn't top 5, then one reasonable conclusion one can draw is that Link as a character can't hang with Fox and other top characters (IMO the list is Chillin, Ken, PC Chris, m2k, and KDJ). If your arguement is that no great players like the ones listed above play Link, then I guess they must know something that isn't apparent to you.

No i understand what you are saying. But if someone is better than someone else (even if its their 3rd character) they will still prob win. For example i use falco as my 3rd character but i can still 2-3 stock my friends main (doc). Obviously a different level of play but still same idea.

[MASAHIROx]

im sorry if i offended you or your love of link in any way...i was just being truthfull and honest...i want to see a vid of this "rising star" link of yours. we can improve together!

i recorded some matches last night and soon enough everyone here can critiqe my "noob" link if they like...my link is ok....its just gets punished like no other...maybe cuz i play with people taht actually have skill....just maybe

cant wait to show you guys my vids...hopfully yall can help me on my weaknesses

lol its funny how the link forums have changed
it used to be
"GERM is king, nobody can touch him!'"
then it was "well there is this guy, hdl ,whos mad good down in puerto rico..."
" hey theres this guy in japan, hes amazing! aniki....HE BEAT KEN OMG! HES gOD!"
"o sanp, what about azen?1 hes good with everyone right!? so he must have a good/best link..."

it funny how some opinions are so easily swayed....

i only said azen and ricky is amazing cuz i saw them play irl....yea ken loses in friendlies sometimes hes only human....o wow aniki beats hiim ONCE and its caught on tape and the whole link community is like OMG hes amazing!!! yes, hes good...but best in the world...far from it...azen's got that spot...he three stocked my "noob" link just like ricky did...

it still gets me that you posted an entire thread off what i said to you....i guess i finally got through to you...but seriously I DO play w/ the best...i actually forgot to mention KM and AHO...well alll of TA is amazing...everyone knows that by their standings at fc6 crew matches...

well good luck on becoming an "exception" only one person in teh entire samsh community has done it so far....and hes dosent even main link....what a pity

[Skler]

Nobody can win a tournament straight Link. Nobody. Link does very well against floaties. Link can beat every character (assuming both players are of equal skill level) except fox, shiek and falco. Link's combos on Fox and Falco are good, but theirs are simply better and easier to set up. Shiek just rapes Link straight up. Link does great against floaties (all of em except shiek) and he can still beat falcon if you know what you're doing (same with fox and falco, but its just harder). Don't expect to win any tourny going all Link unless you are the best player there.

[DLK]

I see and read all these forums right here. You honestly think u can go all link ur fukin crazy. Link maybe good but he is not great now im not hateing im all link, but my friend sucks at smash but he mains sheik so he always wins now i practice everyday alot. And he can show up and just pawn as soon as some sees u play link if thjdey have any sense they will just beat the crap out of u, im npot hatein just tellin the truth face the facts, aniki won yes but that isnt the change of the world.

[sinfallen]

well i think it depends on the person playing as link and not just link heself i play as link when i first started smash and i have never stop playing as him im not well known by anyone but the ppl at my school know me but that doesnt matter what im trying to say is that if i could actully go and enter a tournament i would start with link and stay with him throughout the tournament

[backaftw]

I will agree that using only Link is a bit foolish if your main intention is to win simply due to the fact of why would you choose a character that is essentially weaker than who you are about to play against? I use Link alot and I know I am far from being the best or even up there with some of the really good Links out there but Im not so silly as to think "oh hes playing sheik... well I think Im a better player overall so I should be able to beat even my counterpick right?" if you wanna use only link, use only link. If you want to win more, expand your mains, play as the other characters, they are there for a reason. just play whatever way makes you have the most fun, but don't complain if you lose and don't complain if someone disagrees with you, everyone has their own opinion.

[Link226]

First of all i just wanna say all this **** about ken not playin seriously when he is playin friendly is BS....cant believe ppl actually believe that crap. If u really believe that your either an idiot or a ken fanatic that needs a girl or something. But anyway


My main is Link....i think im pretty good wit him need 2 put up some vids soon.....but its just the facts. I honestly believe nobody can win a tourny wit just link. Thats a lil crazy....any fox will just shine the **** out of u....yea link does have a chance of winning if u combo fox right by taking advantage of his fastfalling....same for falco. But any good or even decent player wont allow it. I have beaten plenty of falcos and foxes...but its ridiculousy hard....and if u go into a tourny it will just most likely be even harder. Theres nottin wrong wit using some1 else wtf? Becuz if u seriously pick a Link and your gonna fight a fox its because u wanna lose. Close Thread

[Kyle Kerplunk]

On the contrary I play a decent Link and I've found that if you're good with him and can take down good fox's shieks or marths you get respect for it. Let them think what they want and just go out there and play the game don't let them get in your head about it. I agree somewhat with what you're saying that the tier list isnt all fact. But also the tier list is based on a lot of fact and in all probability a good shiek player will own a good link players so on adn so fourth fox's and marths can be a pain but can be dealt with but that doesnt mean a whole lot they're still at the top of the tier for a reason and most like fox even if you can do certain thigns to change up the match fox still has some nasty advantages over link like waveshines. Link can be good and he may be able to take down some opponents in unfaborable matchups but he doesn't stand much of a chance if a chance at all at winning any real big tournies. He's not as good as fox, shiek, falco, marth, so on but honestly who cares you picked Link for a reason and if you're reason is cause you like hima nd enjoy playing him than isnt that waht shold matter most? Germ is great with link as is HDL, and Aniki and I give them mad props and respect for it, but Germ has said Link can defy the tier list, that doesn't mean he's as good though. Link can be underated I agree but he's nowhere near the level of being tourny competive that the top tiers are liek SLH said any good Link knows it and understands it. Just play the game and let them say what they want some of them will underestimate you which is gonna help. But at advanced play Link doesn't have a whole lot going for him so just main Link cause you want to do I lik ebeing the underdog with Link and thats how it is for all Link players they're the underdog and that's fine with most of them.

[smashfan34]

On the contrary I play a decent Link and I've found that if you're good with him and can take down good fox's shieks or marths you get respect for it. Let them think what they want and just go out there and play the game don't let them get in your head about it. I agree somewhat with what you're saying that the tier list isnt all fact. But also the tier list is based on a lot of fact and in all probability a good shiek player will own a good link players so on adn so fourth fox's and marths can be a pain but can be dealt with but that doesnt mean a whole lot they're still at the top of the tier for a reason and most like fox even if you can do certain thigns to change up the match fox still has some nasty advantages over link like waveshines. Link can be good and he may be able to take down some opponents in unfaborable matchups but he doesn't stand much of a chance if a chance at all at winning any real big tournies. He's not as good as fox, shiek, falco, marth, so on but honestly who cares you picked Link for a reason and if you're reason is cause you like hima nd enjoy playing him than isnt that waht shold matter most? Germ is great with link as is HDL, and Aniki and I give them mad props and respect for it, but Germ has said Link can defy the tier list, that doesn't mean he's as good though. Link can be underated I agree but he's nowhere near the level of being tourny competive that the top tiers are liek SLH said any good Link knows it and understands it. Just play the game and let them say what they want some of them will underestimate you which is gonna help. But at advanced play Link doesn't have a whole lot going for him so just main Link cause you want to do I lik ebeing the underdog with Link and thats how it is for all Link players they're the underdog and that's fine with most of them.

I agree with u totally.

[Link-NY]

On the contrary I play a decent Link and I've found that if you're good with him and can take down good fox's shieks or marths you get respect for it. Let them think what they want and just go out there and play the game don't let them get in your head about it. I agree somewhat with what you're saying that the tier list isnt all fact. But also the tier list is based on a lot of fact and in all probability a good shiek player will own a good link players so on adn so fourth fox's and marths can be a pain but can be dealt with but that doesnt mean a whole lot they're still at the top of the tier for a reason and most like fox even if you can do certain thigns to change up the match fox still has some nasty advantages over link like waveshines. Link can be good and he may be able to take down some opponents in unfaborable matchups but he doesn't stand much of a chance if a chance at all at winning any real big tournies. He's not as good as fox, shiek, falco, marth, so on but honestly who cares you picked Link for a reason and if you're reason is cause you like hima nd enjoy playing him than isnt that waht shold matter most? Germ is great with link as is HDL, and Aniki and I give them mad props and respect for it, but Germ has said Link can defy the tier list, that doesn't mean he's as good though. Link can be underated I agree but he's nowhere near the level of being tourny competive that the top tiers are liek SLH said any good Link knows it and understands it. Just play the game and let them say what they want some of them will underestimate you which is gonna help. But at advanced play Link doesn't have a whole lot going for him so just main Link cause you want to do I lik ebeing the underdog with Link and thats how it is for all Link players they're the underdog and that's fine with most of them.
Lolz it doesnt really matter if you get respect for beating a Fox/Falco/Shiek or marth in a tourney. In the long run its not like your going to win a tourney with Link anyways =\ you get might get some respect for using a low tier in tournies but you get even MORE respect by placing high or wining tournies. Up here in New York we got Kubuu who is proabably 1 of the first elite Link player around or if not then the first... only reason why some ppl havent heard about him is becasue he doesnt post videos of himself or on these forums much but has a **** good Link..yet despite all these years maining him he still hasent won a tournies and usually NEVER places top 5 and also never counterpicks characters.

[hit0]

Don't remember saying I was. I'll make this clear; I respect ANYONE who has the guts to use Link and only Link in a tournament. Same goes for any other low tier character. It isn't fun being countered by 70% of the players there.

That doesn't mean I have to agree with their opinions, or think they're good. Honestly, all the boasting people do on the boards just makes you look foolish. Until you prove what you're saying, throught tournaments results or match vids, it's all spouting bull**** to me.


jus cut it out, SLH is partially correct...we Link players are countered by 70% of all the other peps...but that doesnt mean we can't win, even i get my *** kicked by an average sheik,fox, (well, thats about it, lol) once in a while...that is the consecuence of playing link and not sheik, or fox...ppl are good at this game, because it is just a game and so they play according to numbers/statistics, but we, my friends...we are a different breed, and it is an honour to Smash with LINK.

(now add to my reputation!)

[OcarinaLink]

My view would be: it can happen. Years ago, no one ever would have guessed that Marth had the potential to win a tourney. Then, Ken showed up and surprised the hell out of everyone. So, who knows? Link already has the potential to go up against any high-tier character and give him/her a run for his/her money, IF the player is that good.

This really ties into another aspect of Link. Out of all the characters in smash, we all know that Link is one of the hardest to master and successfully compete with. The amount of time we dedicate to getting better with Link compensates for the difficulty Link has that other characters do not have (namely, top tiers). But, after all the effort and time, we find that Link is not just some low tier. In fact, the potential that a lot of us discover with Link sometimes makes me feel ashamed that Link is stuck in the low tiers (thank the lack of Links in tournies for that).

The degree of patience and skill needed to compensate for Link's weaknesses is something that cannot be found in many players...perhaps even some pro-level players. And I think that's what makes us feel so strongly about Link being proven that he is capable of winning against high tiers. That's what makes us offended when someone belittles Link and any player willing to go Link in a tournament. And that's why this first post of this thread was made: because, no matter what others may say, they'll never know the hard work and dedication it takes to become good with Link, and the firm belief that Link has champion-material in him.

That's why Link will always be my first, no matter how many other characters I pick up. I'm always willing to go all-Link in a tournament. If I lose, great. That's how I learned to be good with Link: by losing. More than half people would probably give up after losing so much Link, and that's understandable. But for us, we stuck with him, learned how to get around our weaknesses, learned new strategies, tried different things, and figured out what was wrong. Then, we came back to the people who kicked our *****, and beat them. And we were proud of it.

A lot of people say it's impossible for Link to win a tourney. Those are the same people that said Sheik was unbeatable, before she was relegated to high tier status. Those are going to be the same people who say another character can't win a tournament when a new character starts claiming first place in the future.

And that new character may well be Link, for all we know. IMO, it's only a matter of time, and the right player stepping up as Link in the right tournaments. And I hope I'm there when it happens.

[NJ'zFinest]

Ok, I made this topic because I am tired of posting on a link topic, that suggests link is useless in tournaments and has a question mark at the end. Once and for all, if the majority of players don't play link that is great. Well, I appreciate all of the top smashers in the world, and other smashers, getting together and putting statistics together on, what characters are used the most in tournaments. That is great, I find it very useful, that is a statistic and a fact and is objective. What is not objective and is subjective, is the fact that if two characters of equal skill, 1 being link and 1 being whoever, the link would lose. That is opinionated and subjective. I just think it's funny that I am actually playing a game and getting threatened and made fun of, because of what character I am choosing. funniest part of this, is I am being told by masahiro, that link sucks, and he plays the best in the world, and names who he plays, but in another link topic, the topic about links miny combos, masahiro mentions himself being a noob link player. Hmmm, so is it just you that sucks with link? Either way, I could care less. I appreciate what Aniki Azen the germ Lord hdl and any other dedicated link players out there. I also see some rising stars, such as stos and blue link, and myself. I suggest in the future, do not discourage link players not to be link. you may be sitting there one day at a tournament, and say (Link sucks), and you may just get your *** handed to you. that day shall come soon enough. I will become an exception, since you guys feel it is impossible to be tourney bound with link.

I don't get it, why can't people accept Link as a character who "isn't good". I mean, sooooo waaattt? It's a freakin game, just play it. Don't try to show any pride Smashfan, a Link will never win a highly competitive tourney (aka a tournament that matters) unless Link is top tier in Brawl. I use Link and Zelda (I use Fox/Falco time to time now) and I can care less if people say Link and Zelda suck. It makes me feel better when I win and it's simply true; they're not good characters. The thing is, I don't cry about it.

Hmm, wouldn't you argee that CFalcon and Samus are definatly better than Link? When is the last time a CFalcon or Samus has won an MLG? It's not just Link guys, it's everyone who isn't Fox, Falco, Sheik, or Marth. It's been this way for 5 years, how the hell do you think Link will suddenly going to change that... especially with the fact there's a HUGE lack of good Link players in big tourneys.

The "dedicated link players" aren't doing a much. Aniki and Lord HDL unfortunatly don't go to our great American tournaments, so we can't use them as examples despite how good they may be. Azen doesn't count because he can place high with any character in the game....now let's take a look the other players left.......The Germ and Trevyn....that's it. Germ uses Falco as well as Link....Trevyn goes all Link and places well, but well enough for a Low Tier character.

SINCE WHEN where Stos, Blue Link, and yourself considered "rising stars"??? What have any of you proven so far? There's sooo many other Links such as those in NY that would be considered "rising stars". Pros such as PC and KDJ tell me that NY has some great Link players. I don't hear pros talking about Stos and Smashfan, sorry. Don't say your "a rising star" because you personally think your good, first prove it and make yourself known before CONSIDERING to be labeled as..."a rising star".(I know Blue Link is good, but he isn't well known at all and hasn't show much at all).

GLHF. Here's a tissue for when you lose to a Falco player and start crying about it.

*pound* @ SLH


Smashfan, have you ever been to any competitive tournament??? Go to an MLG, if you place 20 or lower at your first one, I'll call you a "rising star".

[MASAHIROx]

this is what ive been trying to say the entire time....what gets me is that he wrote and ENTIRE thread off what i said, singling me out...WTF...o and i love how i when sometimes, you respond to what somebody said and they dont even respond back to you...why? cause they have nothing to say, thats why...

*pound* at foxandfalco

too bad you're not gonna get throungh to him...he's a lost cause...

...it really annoys me when these link players think that its possible to win major torneys maining all link having only played their friends at school and their siblings...i mean come on now...even the germ has a ****ing second...theres just no way your getting past a DECENT / cging shiek....no way

[FlipX]

I guarantee you i can come in 20 or lower in the next MLG =P

But ya i agree with what you say. Link used to be my main until i started continually to get owned by my friends who played falco fox marth etc. so i switched link to just one of my fun characters and now main marth and falco. The bottom line is if you wanna actually get good at this game by the time everyone switches to brawl you have to use somone else (with the exception of the pros already mentioned in this thread) there is really no other option link just takes to long to get good with and when you finally do get good with him you realize you still arent the best...

[Link-NY]

*pound @ Nj'zFinest post* >=)

[Skler]

I'm (supposed to be) going to MST6 soon. I main Link, but the majority of the players there use fox or falco. I don't plan on using Link against the fox/falco players because of how badly Link does against them. I will however be using Link against anybody who uses a floaty. I really hope my parents let me drive on up to maine so I can play against better players then we have here in NH. KDJ is gunna be there!

[SexyDoodles]

Why won't this thread die ; _ ;

[SLH]

Skler: Goodluck at the tournament. Link needs to be repped better.

NJ'z: Are you going to any upcoming Gauntlets? Or MLG NY? PM me if you are, I wanna have a Link ditto with you.

Everyone else: I like how the second NJ sais *pound* everyone else just has to say *pound*.

*pound* at all the Link players who accept that he sucks.

[superryan]

Link's biggest advantage is the right to use the character john.

[err]

okay, Azen was ripping Chillin at SAVII until some well placed shines.
(available on youtube)

secondly, look on youtube for Isai Husband... its a great set, and when Isai really needs a victory, who does he pick>?

.. i just realized that almost everyone in this thread has seen these videos.. oh well. GO link@!1!

[Skler]

I think Link does well against Marth, thats why he has a use in tournies (in addition to peach). Just don't use him against space animals or shiek, unless you are by far a better player.

Link doesn't suck, hes just not good.