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smashfan34
11-05-2006, 05:46 PM
Ok full hop jump off the ledge and do a dair, the goal is to hit them as much to the left if they are on the right side and vice versa. if done correctly, it will hit them either too far to recover, or it will just kill them immediately. then you should be facing the stage, and you will be able to air dodge+hookshot back on the stage. this is obviously done when they are off the stage. what do you guys think?

Rubber Adze
11-05-2006, 05:50 PM
That's the part where they air dodge so both of you die. I mean, it's an idea, but most humans wouldn't fall for that. This usually works on CPUs only.

Lucky_Sharmz19
11-05-2006, 06:08 PM
They could probably just DI left or right and you miss and die.

NJzFinest
11-05-2006, 06:15 PM
Too risky- just stick with correctly timed Nairs/Bairs since it's easier and more effective.

DLK
11-05-2006, 06:48 PM
worst idea ever. Nv dair off stage! Period.

Gustav Wind
11-05-2006, 07:24 PM
Maybe Insane as in like... not mentally stable, but not Insane like crazy good.

Wak likes to do it though XD (though he's young link)

Skler
11-05-2006, 07:40 PM
It can work if you drop a bomb on them and then pull the dair out, but there are better ways to edgeguard that won't kill you if you miss.

Stos
11-05-2006, 08:34 PM
Well ive done dair out of the stage but when i do it i must be winning by a lot. and sometimes when iam haaing and the opponent is under me (fox charging upB) i just lightly press donw an use c stick down ,,, BUT i rarely do it .. advice dont do it when its a close match.. or dont do it at all

tHrilla`
11-05-2006, 08:56 PM
if you're facing the stage(FD) and full jump dair(non-fastfall) and miss your target, you should make it back every time, given your opponent doesn't interfere that is. however, there are, of course, better options at your disposal.

Lucky_Sharmz19
11-05-2006, 08:58 PM
Like D tilt, Up B, N air, or B air.

DLK
11-05-2006, 11:40 PM
Wak does it with Y.link because y.linmk has a higher 3rd jump. Plus possibility of the spike with sword hilt.

Deva
11-06-2006, 12:24 AM
First of all, there is a huge difference between the jumping and sword plant abilities of Y.Link and Link. There is much less risk when performing it with Y.Link. If you attempt it with Link, you have to hit the opponent or you literally just KO'd yourself. If they air dodge it or you just plain miss, the sword plant will last too long for you to recover. Only use it if you are a stock ahead in a match so if the opponent air dodges you still keep your lead, or if you just have a gut feeling that your opponent won't see it coming, which most likely won't happen.

DLK
11-06-2006, 12:39 AM
I just said that bascilly except alot shorter.

Aiser
11-06-2006, 01:29 AM
I got a better edge guard tech.

edge hog, ledge jump, nair. rinse repeat till they can't land on the stage and they fall for a edge hog

Seriously nair is your best edge guarding tool

Ceriph
11-06-2006, 02:04 AM
If you hit them, then great, but having tried it many times and failed, I don't recommend it.

The only reason I've tried it that many times though is because I'm learning falco and I'm use to having a spike so I forget Link doesn't work the same.

But ya, you will miss too easy with that, I'm just a beginner by boards standards but I'd rather uB or toss boomerang then Bair.

tHrilla`
11-06-2006, 09:14 AM
Seriously nair is your best edge guarding tool

i agree.

If you attempt it with Link, you have to hit the opponent or you literally just KO'd yourself. If they air dodge it or you just plain miss, the sword plant will last too long for you to recover. Only use it if you are a stock ahead in a match so if the opponent air dodges you still keep your lead, or if you just have a gut feeling that your opponent won't see it coming, which most likely won't happen.

when facing toward the stage(final desto) you can full jump and dair while on the rise; do not fast-fall. and even if you miss with it, there's should be no excuse for not being able to make it back, unless your attempt to recover was intercepted by your opponent. otherwise, you'll have plenty of time to come out of the dair animation and>mid-air jump> up air-dodge>hook-shot>up-b>grab edge; there's nothing hard about this, at all.

nevertheless, you should hardly ever edge-guard this way, if at all.

Stos
11-06-2006, 09:48 PM
I got a better edge guard tech.

edge hog, ledge jump, nair. rinse repeat till they can't land on the stage and they fall for a edge hog

Seriously nair is your best edge guarding tool

NAIR IS the BEST edgegaurding move in my opinion i use it A LOOOOOOOOOT of times

hit0
11-06-2006, 09:56 PM
Link has SOOO many edge-guarding tecniques!, but...if i want to use DAIR, i would edge hog and then DAIR right on them as they land right on the BORDER of the stage...this is very useful vs sheiks and space animals. I think everyone will agree with me on this one.

NJzFinest
11-06-2006, 09:59 PM
I only do D-airs on the border of the edge of the stage against characters who have a hard time sweetspotting the edge (such as CFalcon and Ganondorf).

hit0
11-06-2006, 10:02 PM
I only do D-airs on the border of the edge of the stage against characters who have a hard time sweetspotting the edge (such as CFalcon and Ganondorf).

agreed:) ....

Nicholas.Riddle
11-07-2006, 09:29 PM
This is definitely more combo-video material than practical match material. Mind you, I've hit my brother with it before, but more times than not I kill myself trying this.