Brawl Needs A More Acrobatic D.K. & More Characters from his Games!

[shadenexus18]

I know good & well I speak for da majority of Donkey Kong playas on this forum that his performance on Melee was anything but spectacular! What I'm trying to get at is this D.K. for Brawl needs to be very similar to the one on Smash 64! His aerial combat skills were awesome. I could spike anyone down I layed eyes upon; I could actually set peeps up for insane juggling combos. Furthermore, his agility was totally unpredictable seeing as his power & gearth went hand in hand with his agility to lay some serious Smackdown; unlike his Melee counterpart who traded acrobatics for power only! I'm not sayin he was a complete disappointment (the Charged Kong Punch gets it done for those who are new to Smash!) but c'mon. He just, like a seasoned vehicle, needs a tune-up. That's all!

On another topic, there's no way in the world he should come in Brawl without some backup. Here's a couple of new characters I think should be added from his franchise.

Donkey Kong Junior

Diddy Kong

King K. Rool

Lanky Kong

Funky Kong

I know the possiblities of them all making it in is slim seeing how they're all in DK's shadow. Still, these are my pics. Post ya comments here!

[Bahamut27]

hey Kong Punch is great... no problem
new acrobat, is posible

I like see to diddy kong in brawl.

[Diddy Kong]

I agree with that DK needs more representation! :D Good to see your a DK fan to!
Actually, DK is more acrobatic in Melee than in SSB64. But hey, it's a very long time ago I touched Smash 64. In my oppinion, DK got slightly buffed in Melee, and his combo's are better to. He's got insane air combo's vs fast fallers!

Bu I agree that they could buff up him a little. A tad more speed, and a little better vertical recovery and he's fine. Also, a little bit of lag on this ariel moves could help. And replace his current Forward B with... something useful? Also his Down B should get some buffing, make ist less laggy, and futher range.

Anyways. I don't quite agree with the characters... At least... Not all of them.
Diddy and K.Rool are fine, and I really want to see those 2 characters but... Funky and Chunky? I'd rather have Dixie, or a tagteam version of Diddy and Dixie.

DK Jr is pretty much a forgotten character now, and completly replaced by Diddy Kong in every area. Also, DK Jr has a huge change of becoming a faster but weaker clone of DK... Since he IS DK when he was young...

[shadenexus18]

Yes, that's exactly what I mean bro! A lot more lag time in D.K.s aerial moves! Also, a Diddy/Dixie team up in Ice Climbers esque fashion is a great idea son!

[Bahamut27]

Also, a Diddy/Dixie team up in Ice Climbers esque fashion is a great idea son![/QUOTE]


Hey this is a great idea :cool:

[Knome]

=P. I agree. WAAAAAAAAYYYYYY too much lag on the ariel moves.

[T-major]

I agree! DK is one of my favorite video game characters, and I think he should be a bit better. I mean, he's a monkey. monkeys are suposed to be quick and agile, but DK's moves were a bit slow. make his air moves a tad faster, and maybe a few more punches into his ground A attack combo (at least one more punch).

and yes, Diddy needs to get in! he's #2 on my list of top wanted characters in Brawl. but I would have to object to the Diddy/Dixie team character. to me that just dosn't make much sense. when I think of Diddy, I think of him with DK, not Dixie. and I think a lot of people would agree with me on this. he's normaly acociated as "DK's little buddy". not as "the monkey in that game with Dixie".

and I could see Funky with an original moveset, but it's won't happen. I think the only way he might get in (and even this is a stretch) is if he was an alt. costume for DK, or added at the last minute as a DK clone...

[Diddy Kong]

Yes I'd much rather have a solo Diddy Kong to. But Im fine with both ways actually, if he just makes it into the game Im happy.

T-Major please note that DK is not a monkey, but a gorilla. It's basically the same but a gorilla isn't all that fast, but more strong. Even though I do agree DK needs to be more nimble. However, just a little less lag on his Ariel moves would already make me happy.

And I sure as hell hope that Wario DOESN'T get's DK's Gaint Punch! IT'S DK's ONLY! D:<
It would make DK a lot less unique, not even to mention Wario himself. DK's Gaint Punch is probarly one of the best made up moves in all of Smash Bros, and I'd hate if a newcommer would steal it from him.

[T-major]

T-Major please note that DK is not a monkey, but a gorilla. It's basically the same but a gorilla isn't all that fast, but more strong. Even though I do agree DK needs to be more nimble. However, just a little less lag on his Ariel moves would already make me happy.

And I sure as hell hope that Wario DOESN'T get's DK's Gaint Punch! IT'S DK's ONLY! D:<
It would make DK a lot less unique, not even to mention Wario himself. DK's Gaint Punch is probarly one of the best made up moves in all of Smash Bros, and I'd hate if a newcommer would steal it from him.

I know. I didn't think about that untill after I posted it. I was going to change it, but I just figured everyone would get at what I was trying to say. and acualy, I've seen Gorilla's run before, and thier pretty fast. slower then monkeys, but still fast. I think it would be ok to make DK faster, without making him act less like a gorilla.

and I don't think we need to worry about Wario having Giant Punch. Wario has a lot of potentail for his own moves, and since he's a newcomer, I dought they would give him an already existing move. they most likely have thought out what moves to give him before they put him in Brawl.

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

I sure as hell support this.I also miss his split kick D-smash,because it was so quick.

I want DK to be more awsome.*+rep everyone who agreed with this topic*

[alpha n00b]

this is a good idea.... i still don't like primates...... :p

[T-major]

hey, I think I thought of something that would add to DK's acrobatics, and at the same time fit him. the ability to wall jump! I mean, he could do that in jungle beat, so why not Brawl?

[shadenexus18]

Yummmm...Bongos are my favorite instrument (DK Jungle Beat). Well anyway, back on topic. I really have to agree with all of you especially with Eternal Phoenix Fire. I do really miss his Splits Kick from Smash 64. Also, I really want them to replace his Forward +B Headbutt with something unique like.....a barrel roll (Blanka from Street Fighter).

[Arran64]

I've never really used Donkey to be honest other than to get his trophies! I think perhaps he's a little too clunky. They should make his more acrobatic, definately. I'd definately like to see Diddy in Brawl, and it seems likely that he will be... just does, not sure why. Kaptain K. Rool would be a cool 'bad guy' addition! Dixie would be quite cool, too! Kiddie? Nah.

[shadenexus18]

Also, I really want that DK rap replaced. That ain't gangsta son, (like yours truly) that's pathetic & just plain weak man. Period! I do like the remix from SSB64 though.

[Milkyway64]

Dk does need buffed. I'd like to see Diddy in too.

[HiddenTiger]

As for improving DK, I only have two things that I'd like to see. First, they need to get rid of godd**n headbutt move and give him something he can actually use. Second, I'd like to see DK be just a little bit laggy with his attacks. That's it.

As for more DK characters, I'd like to see a Zelda-Sheik/Ice Climbers style of team between Diddy and Dixie Kong.

[bluebomber22]

i agree, DK needs to be much improved. Nintendo really left one of their franchise characters out to dry in melee. He needs more speed and for his Forward B he could have his coconut gun or throw bananas...

[T-major]

why does every one want the forward B changed? it's awsome! it's a gorilla, headbutting someone so hard that they get lodged in the ground! thats one of the coolest moves ever! keep the move, just make it more pratical, a little faster, and have different effect if used in the air. DK's had it from the beginning, and changing it now would be dumb.

[HiddenTiger]

The thing is this. His b smash, albeit funny and fitting, is essentially usesless in play. It's slow and very easily dodgeable, and even if you do manage to connect with it, several of his attacks can't even be used on the buried character because the character is buried underneath them. That's why we say it should be made into something that's actually worth using.

[cb_marth]

Yes DK should be more of a acrobatic character. Seeing how he is a monkey, yet maybe if they add Diddy into Brawl maybe he will be more acrobatic? Who knows, he should though I can see his character being a acrobatic type with lots of power. That would make DK all that much cooler for sure.

[shadenexus18]

Amen to that comment.

[Numa Dude]

To me the only problem with DK is he's too slow. I think the sideways smash fine the way it is and I think they should replace the Ice Climbers with Diddy and Dixie.

[shadenexus18]

Yeah, Da Killa Gorilla needs a few tweaks ya know what I'm sayin. Make a couple of modifications to em & he will once again be King of da Jungle, da Eight Wonder of da world (King Kong).

[D3monicWolv3s]

DK Jr is pretty much a forgotten character now, and completly replaced by Diddy Kong in every area. Also, DK Jr has a huge change of becoming a faster but weaker clone of DK... Since he IS DK when he was young...

I will have to disagree DK Jr. isn't really forgotten. He is just not used, I would use the word shunned.

Anyways if he was forgotten then he wouldn't have had a trophy in melee or a move named after him ( G & W air A+Down), he was realeased in the virutal console within the first couple of weeks. He made a cameo in Tetris DS (short minor apperance in the begining). And he also appered in Warioware Twisted. And is considered by alot ofpeople a great arcade game.
"and is regarded as one of the Top 100 Video Games by the Killer List of Videogames." ~Wikipedia

So nintendo and the SSB team haven't forgotten him he just isn't used, so if they want to put DK jr. in then they will and it's possible to get DK Jr. a original moveset. If you don't belive me then look at the thread "Brawl Character movesets: share, rate, and comment!" I made him a moveset to prove it's possible.

If they could make a moveset for Captain falcon and Ice Climbers than they can make a moveset for almost any character.

Plus I think he stands a chance of being in brawl due to his mentions in melee, plus Miyamoto made him and he is very retro. (I rember hearing that the creator of SSBB likes retro characters).

Anyway I am not saying that diddy shouldn't appear (I am actualy wanting to see him and see what they do with his moveset), but I am saying that you shouldn't count DK Jr. out.

[T-major]

The thing is this. His b smash, albeit funny and fitting, is essentially usesless in play. It's slow and very easily dodgeable, and even if you do manage to connect with it, several of his attacks can't even be used on the buried character because the character is buried underneath them. That's why we say it should be made into something that's actually worth using.

yeah, it was quite useless... in melee. you seem to forget that Brawl will be different, and characters moves will be redone. so they would more then likely keep the headbutt move, but change it's effects to make it more practical. but then again, I can't think of a move to replace it. the move would need to fit DK's character, and also have the potentail to be a practical move. if you have any ideas for a move, I would like to hear some. they might change my mind on this.

[shadenexus18]

I was thinkin for D.K. to use Rollout move similar to Jigglypuff's move. How's that?

[Numa Dude]

Oh Idea He Throws A Banana Peal On The Ground To Trip People!

[Bahamut27]

I was thinkin for D.K. to use Rollout move similar to Jigglypuff's move. How's that?

Not, rolluot is a move of pokemon only...
D.K. is great hes need some move to extra that is all.... becuase bowser is low, this is not problem to bowser.....:chuckle:

[shadenexus18]

Yeah, I guess your right. Well anyway, his throws on Smash 64 were much more effective. Come to think of it, they were effective for every character on da game.

[T-major]

I was thinkin for D.K. to use Rollout move similar to Jigglypuff's move. How's that?

not for a B move. he needs the roll for a move though. he had it in DKC, and I was a little disapointed that they didn't include it. make it his running attack. it would make more sense that way, seeing as it was a running attack in DKC.

as for the banana throw idea. no. thats would be an increadably lame move.... make bananas an item.

this is what I mean. nobody can think of a decent move to replace the Headbutt... just change the effects of it, and make it different if used in the air. then you have a more practicle move that fits the character.

and give him wall jumps this time around. he can do them as we've seen in DK jungle beat. so it would only make sense to include them in Brawl.

[shadenexus18]

I guess they can make a couple of tweaks to make the Headbutt a better move to use in combat.

[virtualgamecafe]

I think dk's down&b should be picking up his tnt barrels and tossing them at others that will give him a ranged attack (also from 1 of his games) and a down&b that can be used in the air it should be cool if that happened:cool:

[virtualgamecafe]

dk's headbutt should just send an opponent down a bit (when used in air)

[T-major]

I think dk's down&b should be picking up his tnt barrels and tossing them at others that will give him a ranged attack (also from 1 of his games) and a down&b that can be used in the air it should be cool if that happened:cool:

no.... his ground slap move is from DKC. so it fit's him perfectly. make the TNT Barrles an item. like the bob-boms, only weaker, but with a bigger hit radius.

[virtualgamecafe]

yeah an iten probably will be beter but dk cant use the down&b in the air

[virtualgamecafe]

the up+b needs help wall jumping is needed and his speed defence and jumps are bad and all my friends hate him and call him"dummy konk" but i think only as a cp (at lv1-lv8) he is not much of a brainiac or threat.

[virtualgamecafe]

he may not be in brawl 4 those reasons but we do not know but he has 0% ranged attacks like falkon but is the least difficult character but we will have 2 wait 2 find out

[virtualgamecafe]

dk having his running a be a rolling attack is akward because he wil roll and have 2 get up and that will make the move slow allong with his other slow moves :^( (its a :(! ) the enemy will get up befor dk so it will b 2 ez

[T-major]

wow... quadurple post... use the edit button next time, ok buddy? your new, so I'll cut you some slack. but be sure to use it next time. also, use commas.

yeah an iten probably will be beter but dk cant use the down&b in the air

then make it so it has a different effect if used in the air. maybe the simian slam from DK 64.

the up+b needs help, wall jumping is needed, and his speed defence and jumps are bad. all my friends hate him and call him"dummy konk" but i think only as a cp (at lv1-lv8) he is not much of a brainiac or threat.

his up+b has good horizontal recovery, and it fits him. I already said that Wall jumping was needed a few pages back. he needs better jumps, and faster attacks. but his running speed is perfect.

he may not be in brawl 4 those reasons

don't you f**king dare! your basing this on what!? the fact that he wasn't good in melee? I'm sick of having to say this. Melee performance DOSEN'T MATTER!!!! all returning characters in Brawl will be redone, making them better, or worse then they were in melee. DK is WAY to important to not be in Brawl, and thinking he won't be in for any reason, is just stupid...

dk having his running a be a rolling attack is akward because he wil roll and have 2 get up and that will make the move slow allong with his other slow moves :^( (its a :(! ) the enemy will get up befor dk so it will b 2 ez

you obviously haven't played Donkey Kong Country... if you did, you would know that it takes hardly any time at all to get up from the move. in fact, he dosen't even stop when he finishes the roll. he just keeps running after he uses it. there would be hardly any ending lag at all.