Need some shining help!

[ApolloX54]

Ok, I've been trying to figure out how to shine a Fox/Falco out of an Illusion.

Are there any signals like what for the sound or something?

[OmegaXangel]

I just watch it. I can get it about half the time, even if I jump off. Just take some time to learn the speed of it. Also, if it hits at the top, or you hit the shine late, the space animal will go in toward the stage., so be accurate. Idk, if this is due to DI or not, maybe it is.

[thanguyen]

From: Training tips for your Fox.
(http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=69793)
-The illusion/phantasm

1.Vs. mode
2.CP-Lv.9(FD)
3.Try to keep a distance not too far(he'll shoot) and not too close(he'll side smash).
4.When you're in between this two distances he'll use the side+B
5.Vs.Fox-Shine when you hear the *whoosh* sound.
6.Vs.Falco-IMMEDIATLY shine when you hear the *shing* sound.
7.Don't get scared when you see this guy aiming at you(trust more in what you hear).

[SuPeRCuSsIoN]

if you cant shine him, jab him. although the timing is the same, the jab is easier. jab, hell fall, then firefox/bird, which gives you the opportunity to shine him dead.

[ApolloX54]

Yeah...thanks. I saw the jab to shine in a Zelgadis vid.

[Nuclear_Crispy]

Ya, I just watched his vid today and just by watching it I can shine better. Dunno how that works but it did for me =)

[ApolloX54]

Ok I got that down (my friend didn't use Falco after all that help :() However, my opponents seem to be getting out of my infinites to easily. I only do the shine WD shine one.

Any help?

[NintendoKing]

Lolz just wait till you here the ping before he shoots off and shine when you hear the "ping!"

works everytime.