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56k
05-12-2008, 05:45 PM
Everyone rapes Ganon's recovery.

Also it's possible to up B with Ganon in such a way that he can not get killed by the cape.
festizzio
05-12-2008, 06:42 PM
At least he's not as bad as G&W.
Renth
05-13-2008, 12:57 AM
Haha, I'm sure. If you ever come down to the NYC area we should play. Try this:

Exarch vs. Renth -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw0ZqHmKGXE
- You should know who Renth is, and Exarch is a peach main I believe who still manages to beat him through patience.



SmashMac vs. Renth -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPiBJOjtpZ8&feature=related
- one of the best Doc's vs. one of the best Ganons. Doc just rapes Ganon's recovery.

Of course Ganon outranges/is more powerful than the Marios, but Ganon outranges/powerhouses 95% of the cast. The matchup is definitely even.

whoa whoa whoa, the Exarch match should not be included in this. Read the fine print on the extra details on that youtube vid. It was in no way a serious match.

Smash Mac rules.

edit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFY0-Ctn-H8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPBLgnSsozI&feature=related

Watch all 3 matches not just the last one.

Also, i believe Dr. Mario Vs. Ganon is 50-50

I've been taken out fast and i've had long hard matches. It's a pretty even match up if both players are close in skill range
ZoSo
05-13-2008, 01:09 AM
Didn't Phanna explicitly state that he isn't going to bother to update this chart anymore?
Renth
05-13-2008, 01:11 AM
Didn't Phanna explicitly state that he isn't going to bother to update this chart anymore?

i have no idea i just saw my name and felt the need to respond.
otg
05-13-2008, 03:14 AM
Watch all 3 matches not just the last one.

Also, i believe Dr. Mario Vs. Ganon is 50-50

I've been taken out fast and i've had long hard matches. It's a pretty even match up if both players are close in skill range

I did watch all 3, he beat you in the set! I just put up the last one because it was a good example as to what we were debating. I'm not hating on your skills at all Renth, your freaking BEAST.

I've actually found more videos of you destroying Doc's than losing to them, lol.
Divinokage
05-13-2008, 06:48 AM
Haha, I'm sure. If you ever come down to the NYC area we should play. Try this:

Exarch vs. Renth -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw0ZqHmKGXE
- You should know who Renth is, and Exarch is a peach main I believe who still manages to beat him through patience.



SmashMac vs. Renth -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPiBJOjtpZ8&feature=related
- one of the best Doc's vs. one of the best Ganons. Doc just rapes Ganon's recovery.

Of course Ganon outranges/is more powerful than the Marios, but Ganon outranges/powerhouses 95% of the cast. The matchup is definitely even.

I'm not going to NYC if there's no major tourney, but I am going to Georgia.. are you going there? =P
phanna
05-13-2008, 09:58 AM
Didn't Phanna explicitly state that he isn't going to bother to update this chart anymore?Well I am all about Brawl now, but if you want to compile posts since the last update to back up each change you suggest, I can probably update accordingly.

Edit: Interesting, this is under tournament discussion now. I might have to put together a Brawl version... I'd start the same way, by going through character-specific forums for threads about match-ups, and based on what people say for each assign numbers, and then get feedback from there. I do know there is the positive / neutral / negative match-up chart thread for Brawl, which is also a good start.
56k
05-13-2008, 10:18 AM
This thread might be receiving views again because of the Brawl match-up chart that is in progress right now.

At least he's not as bad as G&W.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=57VByl82BWw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9RLb3FQaOws

lolfalcon
festizzio
05-13-2008, 05:26 PM
Captain Falcon doesn't count!
otg
05-13-2008, 05:44 PM
I'm not going to NYC if there's no major tourney, but I am going to Georgia.. are you going there? =P

I'm trying to sort that out. I just got home from college today so things are a little disorganized.
exarch
05-23-2008, 12:05 AM
whoa whoa whoa, the Exarch match should not be included in this. Read the fine print on the extra details on that youtube vid. It was in no way a serious match.
Son! You betta take me seriously!
Rematches in Atlanta.
And you've said yourself on many occasion you can't sandbag against me. Don't tell me you were lying!!

(When I put up video I generally try to pick ones which are relatively close between the two players, or something amazing happens. Had Mark not 3 stocked me the time before I would have put that one up as well.)

Hey otg knows who I am. ^_^

Also, this chart is also severely unarguably outdated.
WildMongrel
07-11-2008, 11:52 PM
Nevermind.
Ben Riigen
07-13-2008, 12:19 AM
Would it be better for me to be marth or link?
Jonneh
08-30-2008, 06:41 PM
i liek dis chart. Verr acurate.
KirbyKaze
08-31-2008, 04:31 PM
i liek dis chart. Verr acurate.
no it's really not.
w!zard
10-04-2008, 03:24 AM
update the chart!
Wind Owl
10-23-2008, 12:42 PM
Needs to be updated >_>
KishPrime
10-24-2008, 10:04 AM
It's too late!
Wind Owl
10-24-2008, 10:06 AM
Why?
10chars
Dark Hart
10-26-2008, 10:05 PM
It's too late!I new list is out, and this hasn't been updated in over a year. It's time to update.

I now summon Mew2King, Magus, Cactaur, and other not as important as them.

>_> <_<
Problem2
12-25-2008, 11:57 PM
I was going to make a list based off how many points each person has on this match up chart, but stopped when I reaad that Fox has a 7 advantage against DK. lol