Some technical questions

[AznAmateurKit]

I know there are a bunch of these topics, but I still need some help please.

1. Which way should I use for waveshining? I'll try to explain what I mean, if you don't get it:
-A) Shine>Jump>Direction>Airdodge=Wavedash or
-B) Shine>Direction>Jump>Airdodge=Wavedash (This one, I don't release the joystick after shining)


2. Should I SHL or SHDL? I mean, which one would be more effective?

[_Phloat_]

Well, for the first one, go for consistancy, can you always do it, if that is true with both, which is faster??

For the second one, I don't really know, but I think that SHDL would be better, there are two lasers

[AznAmateurKit]

Ok. I think I'll double laser than. Thanks

[Zgetto]

1.
i think i do: shine -> jump -> direction and airdodge at the same time.
i dont really pay attention how i do it but you should do it the way you like it and your used to.

2.
it doesnt really matter.
again you should do it the way its easier for you and what your used too do.
i usually SHDL on large chars and shl on small chars.
and sometimes just FJTL(full jump triple laser) on phloaty chars(peach jiggs etc.)

[_Phloat_]

IGNORE WHAT I SAID...

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[Pye]

1. Dosn't matter. Which ever one you can do faster, basically. I personally do *Shine -> release everything -> wavedash -> release everything*, but that's a little slower then some other methods. I can't drillshine infinite doing that.

2. What Zgetto said. Against characters big enough that the high laser hits them, theres no reason not to SHDL. However, against smaller characters where the high laser is over their head, you acualy have more DPS using regular SHL (think about it. In both cases, you are hitting with one laser every SH, but SHL has fastfall in it, meaning you fire that one laser more often).

[AznAmateurKit]

Cool. Thanks. I am just trying to start learning a Fox. Thanks for the help. :)

[AznAmateurKit]

Sheez. He was right. I looked at your vids at Youtube. You are really good Zgetto. I wish I could do that.

[Zgetto]

thanks for watching guys:grin:
with enough practies you can do this too one day;)

[DemonicShadows]

1. Pretty much what everyone else said. Look for consistency, and speed. If you can do the first way faster, go for it, and vice-versa. Also, if you can do both fairly equal, go for the one that is more comfortable and the one that you are most used to.

2. Personally, I SHDL but that's because my friend's usually used medium-sized or large characters (such as Marth, Ganon, Falcon, and Mewtwo). I am also used to SHDLing more that SHLing, but that's just me. Again, it depends on who you're facing. For smaller characters (such as Pichu or Jiggs) where the first laser of the SHDL is already too high, use the SHL. But you can use either method for larger characters. Always remember to JC the lasers though.